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Posted on 05-24-13 6:28
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mazarella ज्यु लाई सानो प्रश्न: के हजुरलाई साचिकै लाग्छ कि मान्छेलाई जलाएर उसको दाह-संस्कार गर्यो भने उनी नरक जान्छ? बागमती हिन्दु धर्मले गरेर प्रदूषित भएको हो कि मान्छेले गरेर? के ५०-१०० बर्ष अघि इशाई धर्म मानेकोले गरेर बागमती स्वच्छ थियो? फिलिपिनमा क्याथोलिकहरुले परिवार नियोजनको साधन प्रयोग गर्न नदिएर त्यहाका मानिसहरुले नचाही पनि बच्चा जन्माउनु परि रहेको र फोहोर मैला बस्तीमा बस्नु परेको भिडिओ हेर्नु भएको छ?
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Posted on 05-24-13 8:56
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Its amazing how everyone is bashing me just because i am for freedom of speech and freedom of religion . Every one can have their own opinion .and should be able to express themself exactly the way they want to . You guys seem to have your own opinion about christains and they are not so flatering either so what difference does it make . Beside when you go to bagmati you too will say its filthy simply because its the truth. Let people choose their own God . There is really no choice when people like you stop them from exploring and think that just because they are higher cast or have more money and were able to go to school and get a degree that some how they can make decisions for everyone in nepal. I have news for you guys even though people might be poor or low cast they still have brains and they can still make their own decision . if i believe that hiduism is a false religion its my opinion and it is my right if i want to say that bagmati stinks then i will hey i have a voice too . If you don't like it hey thats your right .
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Posted on 05-24-13 9:08
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mazarella ज्यु, जवाफ दिन सकेन वा आएन भने त्यसो भने भै हाल्थ्यो, यो लम्बाई तानेर किन बोल्न परेको, कसले नेपालमा बोल्ने स्वतन्त्र छैन भनेर भनेको छ र? नेपालमा जति पनि स्वतन्त्रता छ, अझै बरु पुगे छैन भनेर रेखा थापा हरु अझै हतियार बरु उठाउन तयार भएर बसेका छन् रे | तपाई शायद तपाइको कुरा मान्ने संग मात्रै कुरा गर्न चाहनु हुन्छ र तपाईं को प्रतिक्रिया सारै नै पुर्बग्राही लाग्यो | किन सबैलाई तपाई जस्तै ठुलो वा सानो जात को वा तपाई जस्तै राम्रो स्कुल वा नराम्रो स्कुल मा नै गएको भनेर सोचेको ठान्नु हुन्छ | मैले त खाली माथि भिडिओमा उल्लेखित मलाई लागेको प्रश्न सोधेको हो, शायद तपाई संग जवाब छैन वा दिनु चाहनु हुन्न |
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Posted on 05-25-13 9:21
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Rithink,
I wonder why Christianity is the only religion that actively preaches all over the world
i will attempt to answer your question. Increasing and protecting their customers has been major race between Muslims and christians since the birth of Muslim Religion. In the race of outnumber each other both of those Abrhamic divisions has been doing pretty much anything from love, conversation, force and murder to make their side of the number bigger. Now the Christian Abrhamics have evolved better and they have figured out better, efficient way to bribe, convince, and brainwash people into converting them into Christianity while the muslims being the stupid fks they are, they know nothing but to use force and murder for retailiation against christianity or the dominance of their own religion.
Although Christians seem little more civilized and humane around converting people and protecting their religion compared to Muslims, their core goal is pretty much the same and has been the same from last 1700 years ago. The core goal of the Abhramic religion is to convert as many as possible to their belief and both muslims and christins follow that in their own way. Christians and Muslims are really brothers as until mohamed was born they both believed in same BS. After mohamed, they went different way of bullshit.
personally...being agnostic as i am, i think its quite funny for me to see a hindu or another religion picking side between Christians and Muslims because both of them ultimately want to change your religion. Besides, the fight between christians and muslims is a fight between brothers and we really have nothing to do with it.
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Kiddo
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Posted on 05-25-13 10:00
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So mozzarella, you dont answer questions addressed to you (by me or Metta), you just want to share your opinions. Gotcha, well you got the freedom of speech working for you there. Good luck.
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Posted on 05-25-13 12:29
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Nepal is a free country, so they are free to spread their belief in a peaceful way, BUt i find some problem the way they are doing it.
I dont believe in any religion so
1. Its ok, if they say their religion is the best (at the same time they must be ready to face the challenge by people of other beliefs).
2. Why they have to spread hatered about beliefs of the locals in KTM? Looks like they cannot say they are good without saying others are bad, you show your greatness by deed not by defaming others.
3. A group of INGOs have dedicated their organization to preserve culture/identity of indigenous people of Nepal, they even say Baauns and Chhetris are destroying identity/culture of indigenous people. So by converting one to Christianity how their identity/ culture will be preserved?
4. What is the opinion of NGO's who say they are dedicated to preserve the culture/identity of indigenous ppl of Nepal? Arnt these mercenaries destroying culture and identity of indigenous ppl in Nepal. is it ok if a White guy destroies culture/identity of locals?
5. What is the opinion of those political parties who say they are determined to preserve culture/identity of local indigenous ppl.?
6. The program seems like a good vacation package to me. For a group of lazy ppl who otherwise will not be able to make such tour. 2 way ticket to ktm from Europe/America, lodging, food etc. all cost must have been paid by someone. they just have to read the materials prepared by others. Nothing creative.
7. There are lazy ppl all around the world; they will find such program fascinating. In the name of the god, you enjoy the world.
AND most importantly
How they are being treated in United States of America for similar behavior? Let me quote from their own website
Missionary Jailed in North Carolina for Telling Officers to ‘Repent’ on Independence Day
Attorneys for Missionary Jailed for Telling Officers to ‘Repent’ Demand Constitutional Training for Police
elderly grandmother arrested in philadelphia
police physically assault Christians in Philadelphia
gentle preacher arrested at the liberty bell
In October of 2007, Michael. Marcavage, head of Repent America, was arrested while preaching on a public sidewalk outside the Liberty Bell in Philadelphi
boyd brothers arrested in hickory, nc
In 2008, Jesse & Matthew Boyd were arrested and charged with trespassing, simply for distributing Gospel tracts on public property at an event open to the general public.
those charges were dropped later on
All these are from the website
http://fpgm.org/training/persecution-in-america/
So, they come to Nepal, India, enjoy the freedom which they may not have in their own country, Misuse the freedom and destroy culture and identity of indigenous ppl
Bunch of Hypocrites
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texasranger
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Posted on 05-25-13 12:51
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SOB rednecks...hate those people marketing religion..[Disallowed String for - bad word]in any religion.. all they do is create hate
preaching infront of buddhist shrines and hindu temples...what kinda stupidity is that?
stupidity really has no limit
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metta
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Posted on 05-25-13 2:05
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धर्के ज्यु को नम्बर ६ र ७ को बुंदामा केहि भन्न मन लाग्यो, तपाईले उनीहरुको अरु भिडिओ हेर्नु भएमा देख्नु सक्नु हुनेछ, उनीहरु कति मेहनती र लगनशील भएर खटिएका छन् भनेर, उनीहरु सुकुम्बासीको बस्ति देखि १०,००० फिट माथि खुम्बु सम्म गएका छन् | मन्दिर, मस्जिद, गुम्बा कुनै लाई बाँकि राखेका छैनन् | त्यसैले मलाई यो केहि अल्छी युवाहरुको भ्रमणको प्याकेज जस्तो मात्रै लाग्दैन |
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Posted on 05-25-13 4:40
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these fags are worthless piece of shit in their countries who can not find a job.. so they use these kinds of videos to attract sponsors... i tried asking questions to those guys in their youtube channel but they blocked me...
i cant believe some sajha people here who sound so very liberal 'n say its ok to everything coz they dont know shit.. they just feel westernized and superior by using words like liberal, freedom n freedom of speech
acts like this is not even accepted here in states.. there is limitation
you dont go to temples 'n gumbas 'n preach how your religion is bad and hurt others sentiments
such act is provokin, creats hate 'n violence and should be stopped.
these people are even widely criticized in the US.. these are radicals just like any muslim radicals.
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Posted on 05-26-13 12:51
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texas ranger,
I'm sorry if my previous statement offended you. You are right that they have crossed the line preaching gospel in boudha and pashupati. I think we should monitor such activities and discourag them in the future. Again we are talking about Nepal, chances are slim that it will happen. But I have no problem with them preaching in Thamel and in the villages. It is perfectly fine. People can make choices, it's their life and who am I to enforce my belief upon them? If they go and help the poor, untouchable people in remote village and in return want to believe Jesus as their savior, then so be it. I have no problem with that. If we insist that they should not convert, then we need to compete with these Christians. Isn't that the logic of life? As the saying goes, if you cannot make your wife happy, somebody else will. Again, as long as they are not doing it with a gun, is my defination of acceptance.
I also agree with their statement about Bagmati, the dirt, polution and corruption, it is all true. Do we not have the balls to accept the reality? Truth hurts, ain't it? esp when outsider points it out. Welcome to modern civilization.
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Posted on 05-26-13 2:49
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ok Vhootee
... the logic that bagmati is polluted because of cremating bodies in pashupati is ridiculous..im from that area.. its coz of sewage from boudha/chabahil area droped straight into the river... second its not about christianity.. problem is all radical religion.. rather it be muslim, hindu or buddhist.. . its about hurting one's belief and sentiments and provoking violence
you might pimp your wife to some nigga coz u cant get yours up but 99% of people are not faggot like you
spread love not religion
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Kiddo
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Posted on 05-26-13 7:47
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@texasranger - You want to stop people from saying whatever they want infront of a temple and gumbas. And you call others religion a radical religion? I treat these people who are shouting outside the temple same as the protestors who shout outside White House. THey are inconvenience to what's going on inside, but are they illegal? NO!! And if they aren't illegal you have no rights to stop them. What grounds are you professing banning these "preaching?" I don't like it when I keep hearing swear words like faggot and nigga, but that doesn't mean I start policing you in Sajha. Give it some thought, don't make Hinduism a religion of intolerance and extremist. If you want to compete, go debate these people who shout outside temple and gumba. Heck, go do that outside a church and mosque. Just don't make hinduism, or any other religion, similar to radical islam.
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Posted on 05-26-13 7:56
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Posted on 05-26-13 8:39
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kiddo u need to either grow up or shut ur azz when u dont know what u talking about with your baseless weird example and misinterpreting and manupulating what i have said
i asked the dude in the video - why infront of temple 'n gumbas? he said- get off my channel! n blocked me
the freedom speech you are giving here...you dont even know the meaning of it.. so shove it up ur azz
there is limitation to it also dumbazz.! for example -incinting hatred.. which those guys in the video did.
no offense Kiddo but you are too immature for a post like this so please dont embarass yourself by posting one more..
spread love not religion...amen!
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Posted on 05-26-13 8:43
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^ I don't even know what to say to posts like this. Oh, the irony..and he is calling me "immature, baseless, grow-up" etc etc. Do you even know how to debate? Or you just resort give up crying and start shouting like a baby? Fuchhe haru, go wank and have some brain.
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Posted on 05-26-13 9:09
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you hv nothing better to say kiddo?..lol u made me laugh.. put a pacifier in your mouth 'n go to sleep
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Posted on 05-26-13 9:57
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First I thought, I'd just disregard your post, dismissing you as a punk. But then I thought, Sajha is flooded by people like you who, behind the veil of internet act as if they were a gangsta from a rough neighborhood. It might be worthwhile to spend few more times in hopes of discouraging such posts. Or, maybe, I want to give you a benefit of doubt and give you another chance to clarify yourself. I know my trial is going to be futile, but come, take a swing. Tell me what you didn't agree with what I said. Don't just say ignorant, childish. Give a solid reason on why you agree or disagree with what I had to say in my earlier post and we can talk like adults. If you keep barking like a idiot, I am going to have to dismiss you as a punk.
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Posted on 05-26-13 10:11
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lmao.. u must be a lil girl
does your daddy molest you? oh poor thing
u sound like u need a hug
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Kiddo
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Posted on 05-26-13 10:24
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That's all you got? That was your comeback? That was your argument, that was your logic? Actually, I should be fair; we can only argue what we can understand. Your understanding doesn't go beyond the level of 8th grade dropout. Gu lai chalauda gandha. I am done with this punk.
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Posted on 05-26-13 10:37
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yea rite girl ha ha
kina chalako ta gu? lmao.. lil kids do that kinda stupid stuff
im just having fun with u sissy
you dont have intellectuality to debate ...
u sound just like your name...kiddo! haha... dumbazz!
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