Hello all, i always go through all the threads we have in sajha, most of the time whenever i get the chance and usually surf around and kept myself updated with all the nice views that our generous personal have and i was not registered to put my views but now i couldn't help myself registering and stay without questions and comments.
After going through whole situations of our beloved country and informative threads, does anyone can mention any name who can run our country well and can negotiate with Moist, wheather we have any single person right now whom we can give our full support to run the country and can stop the corruption, violence and put the nation united not divided.
Please post it with serious name of personal who have personality and leadership.
thank you

name: samaj sewak
location: unknown.


i am serious. not kidding.

well i am very surprised ! i am checking the thread after about five hours and found out there were about 100 something personals viewed it but no one have any single person's name.
So, what i am trying to say here is, " Why we are wasting our time saying something bad to King Gyanendra or to some corrupted politician. Instead of doing that lets do search for the right candidate. Lets put the proposal with his resume.
After all we all are finding back on nepal is, "One nepali is killing the other one, in the name of democracy and revolution". We are not fighting with any alien or someone from outer space. We are fighting with ourselves, getting victamized ourselves. And some third party like India taking an advantages.
Sorry, if any of you have thought different about me like, king supporter or something else but i always be nepali and love to have peace everywhere.
Thank you Sajha Admin for this appurtunity.
Peace

No, really I appreciate your comment. And I do not know your leanings. But I fully back you to take a more active role, whatever that might be. Love and concern of the Nepali people makes you great.

Think about it. Really.

Since past few days I haven't seen few guys like Dadagiri, Indisguise, Swati, Ashu etc too much. I have been in Sajha for past one month and these are few intellectual guys who write here. Intellectual in a sense, they use their heads instead of using bad words as if they were commas and semicolons and full stops.
Anyways, regarding selecting a candidate for the President's post, I dont think Nepal will get to see that in Near future but what one can see clearly is that, in the Big picture, soon the political forces are gonna come together and fight against this tyranny. Till yesterday the maoists and Politcal parties were fighting with each other for power but now that their enemy is common, they will definitely try someday to come together and topple this system of autocracy and dictatorship.

you know really though. we were never really involved in the process to find out who are the good leaders. really. but i guess that is just another rant.

King Gyanendra: The absolute monarch
By Justin Huggler
05 February 2005


When King Gyanendra of Nepal was a boy, he was sent to school in Darjeeling in neighbouring India. A story from his time there sheds light on the character of the man who this week sacked the entire government of Nepal and seized back the absolute power of a medieval king.

Jawaharlal Nehru, the prime minister of a newly independent India, was to make an official visit to Darjeeling, and one of the stops on his itinerary was at the school. Gyanendra and the other young Nepali princes were told they would have the honour of presenting the visiting dignitary with a flower. But Gyanendra refused. "I won't do it," the precocious prince is said to have told the headmaster. "I am higher than he."

The man who this week seized back absolute power in Nepal is a man who believes in royalty, who believes that from his birth he has been "higher" than other people.

Most of Gyanendra's life has been devoted to preserving the mystique and power of royalty. He even played a small part in the drama of Britain's own royal family. When Prince Charles came to Nepal in the late 1970s for some space to think about whether he should marry a young blonde called Lady Diana Spencer, it was Prince Gyanendra who took the English prince under his wing, playing host and devising the "royal trek", a route below Machhapuchhre mountain where Charles walked and meditated on his decision.

Gyanendra's life turned upside down on a hot night in Kathmandu in June 2001, when his brother, King Birendra, and most of the rest of the Nepali royal family were killed in the bloodiest royal massacre of modern times. What happened that night, at least according to the official version, is that the royal family had gathered for dinner, as it did every week. Crown Prince Dipendra had been drinking hard, and got into a row with his mother, who was refusing him permission to marry the woman of his choice. The drunk Dipendra was taken to his rooms, but in a fit of rage he returned armed with at least four guns, and sprayed bullets across the room, killing off almost the entire male line of the Nepali royal family.

After killing the rest of the family, Dipendra turned the gun on himself. For three days he lay in a coma in a hospital bed. He was named king but never regained consciousness. After he died, his uncle, Gyanendra, was crowned. There were no cheering crowds. There were riots in Kathmandu at the news of Gyanendra's accession, and as he rode to the coronation, his carriage had to be guarded by the army.

Except that it wasn't the first time Gyanendra was crowned king of Nepal. In 1950, when he was a boy of four, Gyanendra had been led to the throne to have the crown placed on his head in a hasty ceremony. And that curious episode also sheds light on what happened this week.

Nepal was in turmoil. The real power was in the hands of the Ranas, a family of hereditary prime ministers who used the royal family as figureheads. Gyanendra's father, Tribhuvan, fled to India, taking with him his heir, Gyanendra's brother. Gyanendra was left behind and the Rana prime minister, Mohan Sumshere, crowned the boy as a new figurehead.

Four months later, Tribhuvan returned and managed to overturn the Rana power with Indian backing. The four-year-old Gyanendra abdicated in favour of his father's restoration. Gyanendra was born into royalty, but he was born into a royal dynasty in trouble, and at the age of four he played his part in restoring its power. It was to become a common thread through his life. The dynasty Gyanendra helped to save was not just one of kings - it was a dynasty of gods. Devout Hindus in Nepal believe that their kings are incarnations of the god Vishnu.

But after those tumultuous events of his boyhood, Gyanendra had to learn to play the part of the dutiful younger brother. He developed his own business interests: a hotel in Kathmandu, a tea estate in eastern Nepal, and a cigarette factory. He also became a leading conservationist.

After his father died, Gyanendra became a trusted adviser to his brother, King Birendra, but they fell out in 1990. That was when Birendra agreed to give up absolute power and become a constitutional monarch.Gyanendra opposed the constitutional monarchy from the start. In many ways, it was a reversal of the victory Tribhuvan had won in 1950 with his return to the throne - a victory in which Gyanendra had played his small part.

The written constitution was part of the reason for the outpouring of grief at Birendra's death in the royal massacre of 2001. Not just any king had been killed - but the king who gave Nepalis democracy and constitutional rights. And when Gyanendra succeeded him, grief gave way to rage. To this day, many ordinary Nepalis do not believe the official version of the 2001 massacre, that it was carried out by a drunken and enraged Dipendra.

In the alleys of Kathmandu, it is considered highly suspicious that Gyanendra was conveniently away from the palace when it took place. It is considered even more suspicious that virtually the sole male survivors of the royal family were Gyanendra and his only son, Crown Prince Paras.

He inherited a Nepal in even more serious trouble than it faced when he was crowned for the first time, back in 1950. To date, the Maoist insurgency has claimed more than 10,000 lives and crippled the Nepali economy. Since Gyanendra ascended the throne, the situation has worsened, and now it is becoming critical.

Then there is Gyanendra's hated son. So unpopular is Paras that at first Gyanendra did not dare name him as crown prince and heir, but waited until he had been on the throne a few months, and then rushed the announcement out during a holiday when there were no newspapers to report it.In 2000, Paras allegedly killed a popular singer while drunk at the wheel. Half a million Nepalis signed a petition calling for him to be prosecuted. But Nepali royals cannot be prosecuted without the king's permission, and he has never faced trial.

Most of Gyanendra's life has been devoted to preserving the absolute power of the kings of Nepal and, seen in that light, his decision this week to tear up the constitution and reimpose direct rule is not surprising. It was just the latest in a series of efforts to take back the powers his brother gave away in 1990. In 2002, he also sacked the government until public protests forced him to reappoint Sher Bahadur Deuba, the prime minister he sacked then. This week the king sacked him again.

This time he also "suspended" freedom of speech, freedom of thought, freedom of assembly and freedom from "preventative detention". In his desire to recreate a medieval kingship, he is dragging Nepal back to the Middle Ages with him.

Just a few months ago, Britain, the US and India, who have been backing the Nepalese army against the Maoists, warned Gyanendra not to dismiss the government. By going ahead, he appears to have called their bluff, banking that, faced with a choice between him and the Maoists, the West and India will just have to accept his palace coup.

Nepal's political parties are mired in corruption. Gyanendra might well get away with his gamble - but for the Maoists. He may have seized absolute power, but it extends only over Kathmandu and a few government-controlled towns outside the capital.

The front line is just 20 miles from Kathmandu. Across it, you are no longer in Gyanendra's Nepal, but in the Maoists' Nepal. The signs are he wants to do something about it. Some Western diplomats in Kathmandu believe that when Gyanendra says he sacked the government because they were failing to tackle the Maoists, it's not just rhetoric.

Some say the king wants direct talks with the Maoists. Others say he is planning a new offensive against them. If he fails, what happened this week could turn out to be academic. Unless someone finds a way to stop their advance, it may be the Maoists, not Gyanendra, who decide the fate of Nepal.

After his father died, Gyanendra became a trusted adviser to his brother, King Birendra, but they fell out in 1990. That was when Birendra agreed to give up absolute power and become a constitutional monarch.Gyanendra opposed the constitutional monarchy from the start. In many ways, it was a reversal of the victory Tribhuvan had won in 1950 with his return to the throne - a victory in which Gyanendra had played his small part.

The written constitution was part of the reason for the outpouring of grief at Birendra's death in the royal massacre of 2001. Not just any king had been killed - but the king who gave Nepalis democracy and constitutional rights. And when Gyanendra succeeded him, grief gave way to rage. To this day, many ordinary Nepalis do not believe the official version of the 2001 massacre, that it was carried out by a drunken and enraged Dipendra.

In the alleys of Kathmandu, it is considered highly suspicious that Gyanendra was conveniently away from the palace when it took place. It is considered even more suspicious that virtually the sole male survivors of the royal family were Gyanendra and his only son, Crown Prince Paras.

He inherited a Nepal in even more serious trouble than it faced when he was crowned for the first time, back in 1950. To date, the Maoist insurgency has claimed more than 10,000 lives and crippled the Nepali economy. Since Gyanendra ascended the throne, the situation has worsened, and now it is becoming critical.

Then there is Gyanendra's hated son. So unpopular is Paras that at first Gyanendra did not dare name him as crown prince and heir, but waited until he had been on the throne a few months, and then rushed the announcement out during a holiday when there were no newspapers to report it.In 2000, Paras allegedly killed a popular singer while drunk at the wheel. Half a million Nepalis signed a petition calling for him to be prosecuted. But Nepali royals cannot be prosecuted without the king's permission, and he has never faced trial.

Most of Gyanendra's life has been devoted to preserving the absolute power of the kings of Nepal and, seen in that light, his decision this week to tear up the constitution and reimpose direct rule is not surprising. It was just the latest in a series of efforts to take back the powers his brother gave away in 1990. In 2002, he also sacked the government until public protests forced him to reappoint Sher Bahadur Deuba, the prime minister he sacked then. This week the king sacked him again.

This time he also "suspended" freedom of speech, freedom of thought, freedom of assembly and freedom from "preventative detention". In his desire to recreate a medieval kingship, he is dragging Nepal back to the Middle Ages with him.

Just a few months ago, Britain, the US and India, who have been backing the Nepalese army against the Maoists, warned Gyanendra not to dismiss the government. By going ahead, he appears to have called their bluff, banking that, faced with a choice between him and the Maoists, the West and India will just have to accept his palace coup.

Nepal's political parties are mired in corruption. Gyanendra might well get away with his gamble - but for the Maoists. He may have seized absolute power, but it extends only over Kathmandu and a few government-controlled towns outside the capital.

The front line is just 20 miles from Kathmandu. Across it, you are no longer in Gyanendra's Nepal, but in the Maoists' Nepal. The signs are he wants to do something about it. Some Western diplomats in Kathmandu believe that when Gyanendra says he sacked the government because they were failing to tackle the Maoists, it's not just rhetoric.

Some say the king wants direct talks with the Maoists. Others say he is planning a new offensive against them. If he fails, what happened this week could turn out to be academic. Unless someone finds a way to stop their advance, it may be the Maoists, not Gyanendra, who decide the fate of Nepal.

As i am seeing allmost everyone is focused on King Gyanendra and what he did or what his father king Mahendra did in past or present. I think i was not clear with my questions.
Well i am not seeing nepal becoming Republic at list for three years and Its hard and almost impossible to imagine about it and this current situation.

Actually my question is, if King Gyanendra have to hand over to anyone at this situation, do we have any person, whom he can trust, can give our full support, not corrupted and whose pure intension is to serve the nation !

Not an old faces like Deuba, Girija, Surya Bahadur, Lokendra Bahadur and so on.............., do we have any? Even we do the election at this moment, again all these faces will come to nepalese politics, they will be running from five different places and will win from at least one. So, what do you think? At least at Panchayat Era, actually the ministry were ran by Secretaries who were educated even the minister couldn't do anything on their decision where as after democracy even the office staff of minister freaking use to scold those higly educated secretaries. But dont take me wrong i am not against the democracy. Only thing is these politicians couldn't handle the freedom well. And at the end who got victimized, we poor nepalese.
Peace

Ke bhanya bro, panchayat era ma SLC fail manchhe education minister (Bhola Jha)bhayeko kura birsyo. Hem Bahadur Malla le Horn Please...Horn Please (pheri Bhetaula) bheneko kura birsayau. Tyeti bela ta jhan bekaar thiyo sathi. Ke thyo bela speech freedom thiyo...ke tyeti bela thinking freedom thiyo. Thiyen na bhane..kina tyehi jaan chahanchhau.

I heartly support samaj sewak....soon or later this step should be taken. Its just unbelieveable whats going on...and we are just behind our computers typing as if we can rule the world but....indeed doing nothing. Hmmmm...gotta think.

A partially relevant material from a diffrent thread. Those who don't have Nepali unicode font installed, go to the following thread,

- http://www.sajha.com/sajha/html/openthread.cfm?forum=2&threadID=19472

गाँठी कुरो खोल्नु भो तपाईले दादागिरीजी । हाम्रो यो कन्तबिजोगको मूल त होईन पानीट्याँङ्की चाही हो यो बलमिचाईतन्त्र ।

उइलेको कुरा त खुईले भनम न । तर ०७ सालमा अब बलमिचाईको जुग गयो, अब चाईने जो हामी पनि अरु सरह आधुनिक भएम, अब जनताले गरेको सामुहिक जनहुकुम अन्सार राज्य चलाम्छम भनेर राणाजीका श्रीपेच खोसेम । राजाको चाँई खोस्ने कारण थिएन । पर्थम, हाम्रो दूरदर्शिता नाई । दोस्रम, राणाजीले ठिंगुरयाएर राखेका गोप्राणी राजासंग के डराम्नु थियो र तत्कालै । (बरु यो तिर्भुवनको मगमग बास्ना आउने तेल हालेर कोरेको जुल्फीले हाम्रा चेलीहरुलाई भसक्कै पारो, एल्लाई श्रीपेजले ग्वाम्म ढाक्दे पछि टन्टै खत्तम भनेर पहिराईयो श्रीपेच ।) महेन्द्र बज्जे परेछ राणाजीको बाउ (नाताले त ज्वाँईनारायण ) । जनहुकुम न सनहुकुम, उईले हाम्रा बराजुले किर्तीपुरेहरुको Genocide सम्म गरेर आर्जेको real estate यीSSS यत्रो चाई दिम्ला रैतिलाई रजाई गर्न भनेर खोस्यो र पढाईदि?यो ३० वर्ष सम्म महेन्द्रमाला सबलाई, बाउछोरा मिलेर ।

यो महेन्द्रमाला नि गजपकै विद्या रअछ । यो एकबाजी पढेसी यसको टुनाले बाँचुन्जेल नछाड्ने रअछ । चाहे Cambridge, चाहे Harvard, चाहे McGill, चाहे Tokyo पुगुन, महेन्द्रमालाको नशा उत्रने नाई । माला झै घाँटीमा झुण्डेको झुण्डेई हुनी भअर नामै महेन्द्रमाला राख्या होला ।

ज्ञानेन्द्रले उसकै बाउको बिंडो थाम्या दिन देखुन साझाका धेरैजसो धागाहरुमा महेन्द्रमालाकै पाठहरु पड्न पाईन्छ । एउटै मान्छेले दर्जनौं उपनाम राखेर निक्लेका नयाँ चेपागाँडा clones मात्र हैन महेन्द्रमाला विद्यालाई hibernation मा राखेका केही पुराना भ्यागुताहरुका छपाईमा पनि ।

Anyway, तपाईले गिरिजे माधे वर्गको बलमिचाईतन्त्रको कुरो उठाम्नु भो । त्यो त यी बज्जेहरुको हरिबिजोगतन्त्रको एउटा पाटो मात्रै हो । अर्को पाटो चाही यिनीहरुको अशक्तताको हो । समष्टिमा, चाहिने कुरामा हातै हाल्न नसक्नु र नचाहिने कुरामा बलमिचाई यी बज्जेहरुको सामुहिक विशेषता रह्यो । (यही कमजोडीबाट माओवादी बलिया भए ।) किन त्यस्तो भो त अनि त्यसलाई कसरी उल्ट्याउने मूल प्रश्न यही हो ।

अर्थात कारण ठम्याउने र त्यो कारणलाई हटाईदिने, यसरी दिगो समाधान निकाल्ने कुरो आजको आवश्यकता थियो । ज्ञानेन्द्रले चै कारण हैन की कारणीलाई नै सिध्याएर समस्या पनि खत्तम हुने, आफुपनि एकलौटी गर्न पाईने महेन्द्रमाली विद्या अन्सारको अभियानमा जुटेर लागेको छ । उसको सफलताको लागि प्रार्थना गर्ने मान्छे चि छन् केही । तर उसको सफलतामा विश्वास गर्ने मान्छे चि एउटा पनि छैन । कोही भए निक्लम यहाँ । Real people लाई भनेको है, Imaginary people (Nicknames मात्रका) त जतिपनि जेमा पनि निकाल्न सकिन्छ ।

अब कारणीलाई छोडेर कारणतिर लागम् । त्यो कारण चै माला नै हो, तर महेन्द्रमाला होईन । गाईको घाँटीमा बाँधेर झुण्ड्याउने घाँडो हो त्यो । हाम्रा जनप्रतिनिधीहरुसँग जनहुकुम त थियो, तर त्यस्लाई तेजोबध गर्ने राजतान्त्रिक घाँडो पनि घाँटीमै झुण्डेको थियो । त्यसको overall असर त्यो गाईकै जस्तो भो जो चौरमा चर्न नगएर नजिकैको बाली चोरेर खान्छ । गिरिजे बाली चोर, माधे बाली चोर, सप्पै बाली चोर । अनि माओबादीले चौरमा डँढेलो लगाए, क्रान्ति गर्छम भनेर । त्यो घाँडो नहटाई गाई नै मारेर यत्राको निस्कन्छ समाधान !

गिरिजे र माधेलाई सरापेर ज्ञानेन्द्रको गिरोहमा प्रवेश गर्ने दादागिरीजी, तपाईसामु यो प्रश्न राख्छु,

यदि तपाई गिरिजे माधेको ठाउँमा हुनुभएको भए के के गर्नुहुन्थ्यो ? एकदम realistic भएर भन्नुस त । तपाई तिनिहरु भन्दा तैबिसेक काम पक्कै गर्नुहुन्थ्यो । तर त्यति नै हो । त्यो भनदा बेसी, खास गरेर क्रान्तिकारी सुधारका कामहरु गर्न त त्यत्तीकै हो घाँडोलाई नछोईकन गर्न ।

घाँडो हटाअर सम्पूर्ण संसाधन र स्वतन्त्रता दिने हो भने कुर्सीमा कुन व्यक्ति बस्छ त्यसले फरकै पार्दैन । सुधारका जनहुकुम बमोजिम काम गर्ने हो, कुर्सीमा मान्छेको सट्टा लौरो राखिदिए पनि काम हुन्छ ।

साझाको एउटा थ्रेडमा एकजना महेन्द्रमाली ज्यु नेपाल चलाउने एकजना गतिलो नेता देखाउ भनेर सोध्दैहुनुहुन्छ । वहाले महेन्द्रमालामा के पड्नु पक्कै भा छैन भने पूर्णप्रजातन्त्र हुने हो भने नेपाल चलाउने सक्ने होईन कि नेपाल नचलाउने सक्ने एकजना नेपाली पनि देखाउन सकिदैन । अस्तु ।

At least at Panchayat Era, actually the ministry were ran by Secretaries who were educated even the minister couldn't do anything on their decision where as after democracy even the office staff of minister freaking use to scold those higly educated secretaries...

---LOL! hasaune kura nagara na ho sathi!....:)