IT WAS NOT LONG BEFORE I STARTED BELIEVING IN MAOIST OF NEPAL. I KNOW, AFTER I WRITE THIS PIECE OF THREAD IN SAJHA, I WOULD GET NUMOROUS COMMENTS, SOME MAY CALL ME INSANE OR EVEN TERRORIST. BUT U KNOW GUYS, I DONT GIVE A FU*CK ABOUT THAT. BECAUSE ALL U ARE FROM ELITE CLASS MOST OF WHOM ARE FROM KATHMANDU. ITS NOT JUST BAHUNS AND CHHETRIS, BUT ALSO THOSE JANAJATIS WHO LIVES IN CITY AREA TO REPRESENT PEOPLE OF THEIR CASTE TO GET MONETARY BENEFITS FROM AID SUPPOSEDLY TO THE PEOPLE IN RURAL AREA, SON AND DAUGHTER OF WHOM SHOUT IN SAJHA SAYING "bahun chor".

IT WAS 4 YEARS AGO WHEN I WAS IN GRADE 11, ONE WOMAN FROM " SUKUMBASI TOL" DIED OF ARMY BULLET. IT WAS NOT CROSS FIRE. ARMY FIRED FROM BARRACK AFTER GROUP OF ARMY IN PATROL SHOOT A TRUCK PARKED IN ROADSIDE AFTER HEARING VOICES FROM " KHALASI" SLEEPING THERE. THE WOMAN WHO DIED WAS DECLARED TERRORIST BY THE DAO, AND ALSO IN NTV. NOBODY RESPONSIBLE EVEN DARED TO ASK APOLIOGY LET ALONE GIVING "CHYATIPURTI".

I HAD VISITED MY " PAHAAD GHAR" IN LAMJUNG DISTRICT. THE VILLAGE WHERE MY GRANDFATHER WAS BORN WAS JUST 1/2 HOUR WALK FROM THE PAVED HIGHWAY. I COULD NOT BELIEVE THAT THE ENGLISH TEACHER WAS UNABLE TO GIVE THE MEANING OF "DEW" IN NEPALI. HE WAS ALSO UNAWARE THAT HE COULD LOOK UP THE WORD IN DICTIONARY PROVIDED BY THE LOCAL POLITICAL LEADER TO THE SCHOOL LIBRARY.
CAN ANYBODY TELL ME HOW THESE GUYS GOING TO COMPETE WITH US? THOSE BAHUNS AND CHHETRIS, WITH MANY GURUNGS AND DALITS, WITH US, ME N YOU AND ALSO WITH THOSE JANAJATIS SHOUTING IN SAJHA.

DONT U THINK ITS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE FOR THEM TO GET OUR LIFE STYLE WITH THAT KIND OF EDUCATION THEY GET, WITHOUT ELECTRICITY AND OTHER HOME-RESPONSIBILITIES. WHAT THEY FEEL ABOUT THAT? WHEN DO U THINK PEOPLE LIKE GIRIJA AND GYAN TAKE THIS ISSUE RESPONSIBLY. GYAN GOES AND LISTEN TO THOSE PEOPLE, JUST TO SHOW GIRIJA AND FOLKS. GIRIJA NEVER GOES THERE.

NOW THESE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN FRONT LINE OF FIGHTING IN MAOIST. THEY WERE EASY TO CONVICE BY MAOIST. AND AFTER ALL THIS INSUGENCY, ITS GREAT THAT THEY KNOW ABOUT THEIR RIGHTS. IT WAS NOT POSSIBLE DURING THOSE 13 YEARS OF MULTIPARTY DEMOCRACY, AND WAS IMPOSSIBLE DURING 36- SOMETHING YEARS OF PANCHES.

OF COURSE MAOIST HAVE BROUGHT VOILENCE IN THE COUNTRY. I AM NOT LIEYING, BUT EVEN MY FATHER'S COUSIN WAS KILLED BY MAOIST. HE USED TO LOVE ME DEARLY, BUT I WISH HE HAD SHOWN THE SAME AFFECTION TOWARDS PEOPLE OF HIS VILLAGE.

MY 'PAHAD GHAR' IN LAMJUNG IS NOT ONLY SUCH VILLAGE IN NEPAL, THERE ARE MORE REMOTE PLACES IN NEPAL WHERE WE HAVE TO WALK FOR 1-2 DAYS TO REACH FROM NEAREST TRANSPORT CENTER, AIRPORT N ALL. AND I AM DAMN SURE THEY WONT BE AFFECTED BY NEPAL BANDH, SINCE THERE ARE NO SHOPS TO BE OPENED AND NO TYAMPOOS AND BUSES TO BE RUN. ALL THEY FEAR IS HELICOPTERS OF ARMY WHO SOMETIME EVEN FIRE IN FUNERAL TAKING WILD GUESS THAT IT IS MAOIST'S PARADE. THEY NEVER FIRE IN KATHMANDU AND MAJOR CITIES COZ PEOPLE LIVING IN CITIES CAN NOT BE ORDINARY MAOIST.
I THINK BEFORE WE THINK OF ANYTHING, WE SHOULD THINK ABOUT THOSE PEOPLE, PEOPLE IN ROLPA AND JUMLA, WHERE THERE IS EVEN SHORTAGE OF RICE EVERY YEAR, EVEN BEFORE MAOIST INSURGENCY.

MAOIST DEMAND OF CONSTITUENT ASSEMBLY WAS DENIED BY ELITES, FIRST THE POLITICAL PARTIES AND KING AND NOW ONLY BY KING. THEY ARE SAYING THEY ARE READY TO DISARM IN THE SUPERVISION OF UNO, NOT INDIA AND USA, SO THAT ROYAL ARMY DO THE SAME AND THERE WILL BE NO IRRREGULARITIES IN ELECTION.
THEN POLITICAL PARTIES AND NOW THE KING DONT WANNA DO THAT BECAUSE THEY ARE SURE THEY WILL LOSE BECAUSE MOST OF THE NEPALESE ARE LIKE MY DISTANT COUSIN FROM LAMJUNG, NOT THE PEOPLE LIKE ME AND YOU.

MAOIST DEMAND OF CONSTITUENT ASSEMBLY IS FAIR. NOW WHEN EVEN PARTIES ARE READY TO DO THAT, KING DONT WANT TO DO IT. THEY HAVE TOLD THEY WILL DISARM IF UNO SUPERVISE THE ELECTION AND EVERYBODY AGREES TO ABIDE BY THE RESULT OF THAT FORUM. WHAT IN THE WORLD HAVE MADE GYAN AND OTHER ELITES NOT LISTEN TO THIS FAIR DEMAND. EVERYBODY WITH WISE MIND KNOWS THAT.

IF U HAVE COMMENTS, POST THEM. NOT IN THE BULLSHIT LANGAUGE YOUR "SOCIETY"
HAVE TAUGHT YOU.

Wretch:
Your posting is indeed impressive...and I know a lot of my friends who share the same sentiments....Maoism is not bad, just like Democracy is not bad for Nepal...its the people who deviate from the norm laid out by Democracy to satisfy their lust, and fulfill their ill demands. How can you convince people when Maoists continue to be underground and hit from the behind. If they are convinced that people actually, truly want and will support what they want, why not be a part of the political main-stream?

Don't you think Maoists had ample opportunity to be a part of the government. The fact is, they want a bigger PIE than they can actually ingest. They wanna be like the Congress and UMLs....be rich overnight, and forget what they once stood and fought for....... You can say all you want that they are not like that and what, but once they are in power, they get blinded by the GREED, and what not.

On an ending note, I am from a Village very much similar to yours. I had my close relatives beheaded by maoists...The politics of fear got to stop.....be it the Maoists or the King.....Give us something different, and may be we will trust....Violence and fear will not win anyone's heart.....no matter who tries it......I don't support the King, nor do I support the Maoists.......But again, who cares who I support.....I fought for the 2046 Democracy movement, and God behold, do I regret it or what???? Wish I had never done that, may be I would be a free man.....not a prisoner in my own house, my own neighborhood, alas...my own country !!

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If you would not use all caps, I would've read your posting and replied accordingly.

I dont think Maobadi ever rocks. I dont think anyone in Nepal who is more or less affected by the on going voilence ever rocks. All happen to them is they suffer, and being suffered, its not easy to say they rock at all. Rocking is not the part of Nepalese life at all, where the voilence and corruption both have taken its highest degree. People are dying everyday, how could any one rock? Especially innocent people. What they have done in the past as they are being victamized? Is their innocence ever rocked? No, the meaning of rocking is not just one goes and produce a theory of rocking, but you need to look in deep to focus on what the real problem is. Once you are able to resolve it, and get it out, then you can say he/she is rocking.

Why the country is facing 3 sided people? Was that been so easy when we restored democracy and wanted the government to form by involving all in the team to get the expert on how to run the country? That never happened. Now we all know "bhai fute, gabar lute" situation is a persistent of previous act, and we still believe that our brother rocks. I dont see any bright side of Nepal, and we still call it rocks. We may sit here, and write pages on pages, or sit on "BHATTI" and discuss how the country is going on serious setback, but what we will acheive at the end - nothing!. Why is that, because we are never been serious of our action. And we can never be serious in later days. Not benig serious is the highest things we ever acheive to our outmost success? Comon give me a freakin break! How could we go to "BHANSAR" and we offer to bribe them, and try to get our things out, later we go again and talk there is corruption in the country, now think for a second who is responsible in getting it corrupted? Its no one other than you and me. Now we are saying the country is going no where. Think again, what you have done to the country? Nothing, all we did was, we supported, we suppoted NETA, anyone who is willing to be a PrimeMinister. We never looked at their background. We still think that DEUBA would be the good primeminister. We never thought of Pradeep Giri. Not because he never wanted PAJERO, but we never looked at how he is and what he is. We always supported GIRIJA, why, we dont know, we fail to see the truth on him, and always supported him. Thats where we fail. He threw the country in hell, calling election over election. He never wanted to see the country's growth, but he wanted to see him getting happy or his daughter. Now what we fail? We failed to see the true vision. We never wanted a literate to run the country? Why? because we have been told from the very beginning that GIRIJA is the one? Why dont we see the reality? Because we never wanted to see the truth. We were kept blinded, even we calll ourselves literate. Why does Maoist coming to do their part, and the main agenda is to kill someone. I would say if they kill a single person, they will celebrate KASHI. Now even baburam or prachanda claims that they are the one who can rock the world, to me, they are murderers, and should bring to people court for justice rather than getting offer of their disarm settlement.

One can ask what about King? I dont like King either. He is not for anyone but him. Why should I support him? Coz my past generations supported him? I am not from the past generation. And if I support him, then I will be just blindfolded to do so. I dont care about his autocratic behaviour. I would like to see him as a ruler in England, where his crown is even the property of the country. I would like to see him getting all his money invested in poor people. I would like to see him doing the best he can for the people. I would like him to show respect to others or its people and get the same level of respect from them. I dont care who sits in the coronation, all I want is there should not be an abuser. He should see what is right or wrong and made a decision. It should not be only his judgement, but it is of all.

Everybody sucks that is why maoists rock or are rocking right now.

Mathematically,

Everybody sucks => Maobaadi rocks
Not the other way round.

Just a thought....

night-krawler,
dont be hypothetical. how can you suppose that maoist want to come to power to become overnight rich? what made you think so might be acts of political parties. But friend, it were those parties' corruption maoist had denounced and still denouncing.
they just dont want ganatantra, they want liberty of people in remote village and even that of towns n cities.
they do want to come to mainstream and fight for overall peoples favor, like as i have mentioned earlier- in the supervision of UNO. because there is no guarantee gyan's army wont intervene in JANAMAT election.

Well,
Looting millions of dollars from Banks around the contry and distributing few thousand Rupees is more like "HATTI KO DEKHAUNEY DAAT". I totally agree with IndiraGandhi....We've been silent a long enough to let everyone do what they want....Maoists at present, are no better than cowards hiding in jungles, looting banks, killing innocent people, all because they didn't get what they wanted in 2048 election. People didnot vote in favor of their idealogy, and they entered the jungle in the name of so called "People's war". I know few people here in the USA who are sons and daughters of prime Maoists leaders in Nepal.......Dare you ask them how are they paying their bills here, driving BMW, got no job, and are paying Out of State Tuition???? Hmm....I wonder if their Maoist parent ever looted a bank......Wretch Ji, we don't have to disagree just t odisagree....we all know what the situation of Nepal is, and who to Blame.....From the KING to the MAOISTS...and everyone in between......Like IndiraGhandhi said...you, me, and everyone else ! May PEACE prevail in Nepal !!

Wretch Ji,
Talking about being Hypothetical, I wonder Saying "All Maoists wanna do is liberate people in remote villages and towns and come to mainstream politics" is hypothetical....something to think about !!! How many chances do Maoists need to come to mainstream politics....and If they really wanna join mainstream politics, why bother accumulating shopisticated weapons? Can you please explain that to me....the weapons and its place in the mainstream politics....Last I checked, Mahatma Ghandi had no weapons, yet he was able to bring Independence to India from the hands of the British regime.......

I don’t want to write anything, but I just can’t help myself. Well, the problem starts from the Maobadi itself. The killing should stop no violence at all. Then disarming is another phase where they will literally stay without any conjunction whatsoever. Then since they went on hiding and running the hidden war, need to come out of the scope and purify their insanity not by taking a bath at Bagmati, but asking people to forgive them. If it is for people, people are the only one who can leave them unharmed.

Next issue is with the so called 7 political parties. We have to see the history post restoration of demo after 2046. Who is happy? Well, I am not. I know tens of thousands who are not. Why we are not happy is because they never cared of us, they were busy in inaugurating the curtain, bouncing their head-off in blue star dinner, and clapping their dirty hand in Miss Nepal. That’s what they all did, riding in AC equipped car, and nothing, even they put a black shade so to avid half naked people who cannot afford a single cloth, where as they were tailoring their suit in daily basis. People were hungry, and we have street kids looking for food, where as they were in SingaDurbar asking Lunch from Annapurna. Thats not what Nepalese wanted, thats not why the democracy being restored. I would say the hard democracy was out there. Now, what happens if your all stuff were taken out, its obvious that you react in a bad way, and thats what these 7 political parties are doing now in the name of people. There are no people for you guys. Well, at least not now. We want to leave you all alone, coz tomorrow if we restore the failed democracy, it would be nice for DEUBA's son, or MADHAV's daughter, but it wont bring even a piece of rice to the hungry stomach. Thats where we failed, and we are constantly failing.

Talking about King. So popular name, Gyne, at least in this forum. He is smart as he thinks, but no one is buying it. No one is falling for him. He is all by himself. He got money, and the power, and he thinks with that two in hand, no one can defeat him, NEWS FLASH: See how Saddam is doing these days. You are categorized as a terror king of Nepal. Your autocratic character is not going to last forever as you think. This is what you can do: Give people what they want. Give rice to those who are hungry, Give clothes to those who can't afford. Give house to those who sleep in street. That way we will praise you, even I do it to you. I would worship you, and I would like to follow your command. But please don't let the country loose on these political parties or the so called Maoist - they never rock.

knight crwler,
how many chances do u think maoist were given to come to mainstream with renounce of voilence? do u think those " bartas" were really meant to the purpose? Remember, it is same Sher Bahadur's, who when PM once used to say that monarchy is immenent n country do not (?) need referendum, party have opted for constituent assembly.
why do u think everybody in Nepal now, including professional and non-biased organizations like FNJ and NBA, want C.A in country, the agenda which used to be Maoist (previously useless?) agenda when multiparty democracy was prevailing in the country with same constitution in effect which is said to be now.
And looting the bank and sending their son/daughter to US university FROM THAT MONEY by maoist leader- how many people do u know who is son/daughter of maoist leader in US studying from looted money? Please do not be hypothetical as i have said earlier.
I agree that Mahatma Gandhi was non-violence leader. But i do not believe that only because of him idia was freed. Where is the sacrifice of Bhagat singh, subash chandra bose n other martry who were hung for attacking british soldiers.

And, Indira Gandhi
I see fault in your user name itself. Though Indira Gandhi might be a good INDIAN leader she didnt respect the soverignity of other people. she attacked sikkim when she was PM, indulged in many wars.
I think You could have got better user name to discuss in this Nepalese Forum.
Thank you.

wretch dude, I think you are messed up sad person. It didnt take me hard to come up with what your name stands for, here is what I have from google
UNDERGROUND METAL FORUM FOR THE ZINE ACCURSED WRETCH METAL RAG. BLACK, DEATH, POWER, THRASH, SPEED METAL! INTERVIEWS, REVIEWS, NEWS, AND TOUR INFO.

I would care less about your username, and would focus more on the said topic. Whatever your sister indira did in the past is none of my concern. Wearing her name doesnt mean that I have to follow what she did, or I have to take gun shots. Me, myself and I - thats how I would like to describe myself. I never trusted Maoist. Not from US anyways. They are brutal and do whatever it takes to bring others down. Since the commi is gone long time, I would not like to rest in the old era and see what can be accomplish by tailing them. They only wag their tail when needed, but can backstab you anytime they see opportunities. They did or didn't come to table for talk, well they cant talk first. First they need KURSI and they like to talk. Why they think its a failed democracy to begin with in 2046 that lead them to hide in Jungle. Even confortatation betn your two brothers Prachanda and baburam is a clear signal how they could stay in same joint for long. I dont see Nepal being uplift if they are bring in power. They will do what RANAS did in the past, making people say white board even its black.

guys.... communism is a failed system... maoists' system will never work... so that option should not even be considered... pls come up with a newer or better idea...

communism, if you think about it, is not that far off from an absolute monarchy
sure, supposedly it is 'the people' who are the direct rulers in a communist state
sure, supposedly it is 'the peasents' whose interests communism safeguards the most
but the fact is,
stalin (or for that matter, any subsequent power inside the kremlin) didnt have to wait in bread lines
mao never had to support himself on a half-acre of land
communism calls for a central authority to oversee all economic activity
for a set of 'guards' against the evils of capitalism
but, as the old adage goes
who will guard the guards?
that has, and will always be, the biggest problem with communism
the suceptibility of being hijacked

so dont get overtly carried away by the communist rhetoric
sure, i will concede that the movement probably does contain its share of idealistic young people who wish nothing but good for the country and for the people in general

just remember
once the revolution was over
neither guevera nor trotsky were given much of an opportunity to contribute

Actually I was looking forward for the next step of Hammas..from Palestinee....
Lets see How it workss.........
X-actly ......
Here I am comparinggg Hamas with Maoist,
Do U think Hammas is Gonna be sucessful ?
From there we can smell ,Ahmmm
The Future of Maoist,

Read this:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4663892.stm

i think what motivated the so called maoist to wage a war against the establishment was genuine cause, the cause that the underprivileged poor were never given a damn.

however everyone knows that all the war always turns ugly no matter how noble the cause might be.

i think the current crisis can be resolved immediately if gyane steps down. he might even be accepted as a ceremonial kiong. you see gyane cannot in million years solve this crisis by use of force. so why go in a direction which leads to nowhere.

I agree with almost all the postings except Wretch's......He/She is trying force his Maoist idealogy unto us, coz he supports it.....New Flash Wretch Ji, There's no way in hell Maoists will get what they want if they continue on their current path.....Oh, talking about Moaists's sons/daughters here in the USA.....I would rather name names..Unlike Wretch, who thinks Maoists have done no wrong, and can do no wrong !!..but it is true.....It ain't hypothetical if it's true......Moaist problem can be solved overnite if India shows a little interest...where do you think all the Maoist murderers are hiding?? Bihar my frens...If India wants, Nepal's problem can be solved...be it via a political referendum or making the king ceremonial......Its just unfortunate that the GREED of KURSI is mroe than the prosperity of the country for the Netas...and shame on us for siding with one or the other....be it Congress, UML or RPP or even Moaists.....

i do not think india can solve maoist problem in nepal. india itself has her own maoist and naxalites and some other separatist groups. true maoist are getting support from these rebel groups in india but not from indian government.

Birbhadra Ji,
How about Indian Govt helping Nepali Govt flushing out the Moaists then.....do you recall a recent meeting between Girjia, Prachanda, Madhav Nepal in India facilitated by Indian Govt???? I think there is something going on in the background ...don't u? Either way, its a shame to ask for others to solve our own problem....but I don't think it hurts trying......

yes india is involved only in diplomatic terms not in military terms. why would india spend money to solve nepal 's "unsolvable" problem. you can't flush out rebel group that easily. can you give me an example? i can give you several examples which you already know, IRA, LTTE, NAxalities, etc do you get the point.

let us not be concerned about problems of others when we have problems of our own. nepali maoist problem can be solved if king steps down and hands power back to the people. if king cares so much about nepali people why doesn't he do what they want. afterall even the maoist are nepali they are not aliens.

king's only concern is his kursi or rajsimhasan he doesn't give a shit about the commoners.

guys take a look at this, this one is also considerable article about indian thought on Nepal

http://www.newsofnepal.com/pages/2062/today/bichar.htm