Residents of Kathmandu Valley are sissies. I can't imagine they are so ignorant and not taking part in the protests. They like to live in the comforts of their home and be mere spectators to all that's going on. I feel ashamed of being a local resident. There should be a campaign to mobilize the locals of the valley or this andolan will fizzle out. All they say is they want peace and security as if they will ever get it in this day and age when we all live in fear.

>>The ones that are standard and intelligent dont take parts on these things because they know nothing's going to change unless the government/king does something.

im blown away
speechless really
how does one refute such a statement?
one cant
and i dont really see the point in trying

just a suggestion tho
AznshawtY, please do yourself a favour
open a dictionary
turn to R
look for 'revolution'
please post the definition here

I say we all go to Nepal and support those fighters and get our freedom - I am flying end of this month. If we sit here and think it will change with our chanting in this forum we are all fools - Country just don't change on its' own one has to shed their blood to get the freedom - haven't we read the history of all nations. I think we are all intelligent enough to see the situation in nepal - if the people in higher post can't do the job someone has to do it - and that someone is US.

I have to agree with Aznshawty. If you see the professionals like doctors, lawyers and media people are protesting in a better way. At least there voices are being heard in comparatively less violent way. Protest involving parties has been more violent because of their attitude of buring tyres, throwing stones and so on. If they behave in non violent way i guess police will come and take them in a truck . This has happened before. In all this fighting as we have seen time and time again the innocent ones get caught. For example, yesterday six under 19 national cricket players got caught and and were beaten by police in biratnagar.

Eight days of protests and shooting and burning.
Why don't I see Nepali people carrying national flags instead of party flags ?
Someone told me that Nepalis can't have national flags in their homes as we have US flags.
Is that the reason?

"Why don't I see Nepali people carrying national flags instead of party flags ?"

Because Nepali people are fighting against those who are represented by the present national flag. If a complete revolution takes place, it will be replaced.

WHAT IF I DON"T WANT TO PROTEST ? WHAT IF I DON"T TRUST ANYONE ? OK GYANE IS GONE WHO WILL COME NEXT ? I HAVE NOT SEEN ANYONE I WOULD LIKE TO SUPPORT. NOT THE FUKING POLITICIANS WHO FUKED UP THE COUNTRY(they are the ones who brought this whole MAO problem), THE MAO'S INCITING VIOLENCE IN THE NAME OF LIBERATION(dunno who the fuk they are liberating killing innocent people), OR THE OPPERTUNIST KING SITTING ON HIS FAT ASS(watching the country going down the fuking tubes).

Good stuffs so far...what i think is that we nepalese dont have same opinion overall...we dont know what we want for our country,for instance take this thread,there are people who want parties to rule the country and some want King,maoists and so on.....this is because we want our country to be like USA,australia or any other developed european countries which is never going to happen..we left nepal for studies,saw few more world and want our country to be similiar to where we live ignoring the fact that we dont have anything,its bitter but truth it is,somebody in this forum once said that he wanted USA to takeover nepal and whatever..well testo buddhijiwi lai mero namaskar...how can a person who thinks like that be called a proud nepali.Fr those guys who want country like US to take over nepal,i have a request,please never comeback to nepal,you guys can do nothing good to nepal because you will be staying in nepal always complaining that the people are not white or the highways are crap and etc.......
ok that was my anger getting better of me and this is my first post in this forum and i have been watching a lot of posts over here...some very intelligent and some totally ridiculous,about people not joining the ongoing movement,to tell u the truth i wouldn't too if i was in nepal,look at this movement there are angry crowds burning the taxis and private vehicles, breaking other peoples windows,now i want to ask them what they got by doing stuffs like that?whats the point in making all this chaos?? demonstartions should be like the one done by the lawyers and other proffesionals,atleast they know what they are doing,they are the intellectual group of our country,until and unless people get a lil bit civilised nothing is going to change nepal....sorry for any mistakes.,correct me if i am wrong.

Good stuffs so far...what i think is that we nepalese dont have same opinion overall...we dont know what we want for our country,for instance take this thread,there are people who want parties to rule the country and some want King,maoists and so on.....this is because we want our country to be like USA,australia or any other developed european countries which is never going to happen..we left nepal for studies,saw few more world and want our country to be similiar to where we live ignoring the fact that we dont have anything,its bitter but truth it is,somebody in this forum once said that he wanted USA to takeover nepal and whatever..well testo buddhijiwi lai mero namaskar...how can a person who thinks like that be called a proud nepali.Fr those guys who want country like US to take over nepal,i have a request,please never comeback to nepal,you guys can do nothing good to nepal because you will be staying in nepal always complaining that the people are not white or the highways are crap and etc.......
ok that was my anger getting better of me and this is my first post in this forum and i have been watching a lot of posts over here...some very intelligent and some totally ridiculous,about people not joining the ongoing movement,to tell u the truth i wouldn't too if i was in nepal,look at this movement there are angry crowds burning the taxis and private vehicles, breaking other peoples windows,now i want to ask them what they got by doing stuffs like that?whats the point in making all this chaos?? demonstartions should be like the one done by the lawyers and other proffesionals,atleast they know what they are doing,they are the intellectual group of our country,until and unless people get a lil bit civilised nothing is going to change nepal....sorry for any mistakes.,correct me if i am wrong.

nooooooooooo

Hey guys hows life in US.. looks like you guys are living in high speed internet life with all of the facilities available apartment or houses..so it is easy for you guys to live there and talk about what is going on in Nepal...Let me ask you guys when was the last time you really ride on Tuk Tuk or MiniBus..Lets get to fight...Fighting for what???
Democracy that Guarantee Girija or Makune a primeminster ? Democracy that Guarantee all these daka to make rich....Think about this way.. राजा ले जती खाएका चन एनी हरो मेलेर तेस्को दोउब्ले खाएक चन्।। तपै हरो ले ब्ब्क् को समचर् बिदेश् म बसेर सुन्नु भयेको च कि चैन मलै थ चिन कहिन भएने गिरिज को इन्तेर्विएव् एक् चोति शुन्नुहुस्।।। अ्एरिक म बसेर डेमोक्रक्य् को तरिफ् गर्न सरी रमेइलो हुन्च होल।।
i wish i could do the same thing....I don't support the King but I if King goes out to say that Girija Babu or Makune Babu I will give the PM and we will work out the deal they will give this freedom fight tomorrow..

>> AznshawtY Posted on 04-13-06 3:18 AM Reply | Notify Admin
hat I am talking is not crap, its the bitter fact! duh! And who says lawyers, professors, doctors are idiots, Im saying those youngsters and these people we see in the pictures throwing stones, fighting with the polices, burning vehicles, polluting the environment shouting who do these thinking that they'll make the country better but actually end up injuring themselves and nothing else.
>> bidhan408 Posted on 04-13-06 6:35 AM Reply | Notify Admin
have to agree with Aznshawty. If you see the professionals like doctors, lawyers and media people are protesting in a better way. At least there voices are being heard in comparatively less violent way.
>> rookie demonstartions should be like the one done by the lawyers and other proffesionals,atleast they know what they are doing,they are the intellectual group of our country,until and unless people get a lil bit civilised nothing is going to change nepal... <<<



. Police open fire at the lawyers’ rally, dozens arrested
- http://www.nepalnews.com/archive/2006/apr/apr13/news06.php

. Police open fire at lawyers' rally, 4 injured; 72 arrested
- http://kantipuronline.com/kolnews.php?&nid=71038

.वकिलहरूको प्रदर्शनमा गोली प्रहार
- http://www.himalkhabar.com/content/view/559/1/

. Nepal police 'fire on lawyers'
- http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapcf/04/13/nepal.ap/index.html

.Lawyers wounded in Nepal protests; Apr. 13, 2006. 10:37 AM; ASSOCIATED PRESS
- http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&pubid=968163964505&cid=1144922847245&col=968705899037&call_page=TS_News&call_pageid=968332188492&call_pagepath=News/News

. Nepal police open fire on protesting lawyers
- http://www.wpherald.com/storyview.php?StoryID=20060413-101934-7940r

. - http://www.mysansar.com/?p=287

. 10 professors arrested
- http://www.kantipuronline.com/kolnews.php?nid=71039

. Police arrest over 200 development workers
- http://www.nepalnews.com/archive/2006/apr/apr13/news10.php



This is all from just yesterday - we don't need to go further back. Wake up, people!
Burying your head in the sand is not going to make this go away!

I am not permanent resident of Kathmandu. But I have been living here for about 10 years and I have lot of friends who are permanent here.

If there was a good reason to go to the streets, the people would have definately gone and shouted slogans. They are not cowards but they are not fools either. They simply do not turst the leaders who have treated them like fool for in the 14 years after democracy. People are well aware of that. So they just sit at home and want the protest to stop and normal life continues.

i dont think nepali security force are well trained to disperse crowd,they have limited resources and know only one way to control demonstartions,not only demonstrations but also many more gatherings...like when i went to ROCK YATRA by 1974 AD, they ruthlessly charged the crowd with baton,crowds in concert are meant to be wild which they dont know because they are just 8 class twice failed guys who joined the service because they dint have any other skills to b successful in other fields.,my point is that they cant differentiate and understand the situation,they are told to control the crowd but they are not skillfully trained...i know its argueable but thats my opinion,mistakes like this has happened many times, even before king took over the nation..

. it's called free-riding. kathmandauleS are the best in the country at that. FYI, i am from ktm, maybe 20 generations, maybe more...

>>they are just 8 class twice failed guys who joined the service...<<

one of the stories above says, quoting the police,
"maathibaata goli hanne aadesh chha..."

what about the mathi-people? are they also 8 class twice failed...

thats exactly what i am talking about...i meant our whole system lack discpline.....k mathi k tala sab system ma kamjori chha,they know only one way..girija le pani tehi order dincha...mathi base pachhi sabai ko order tehi nai hunchha,kamal thapa le matra haina,pahila pani esto bhako chhaina ra??

Kasthamandap, Where are you at the moment? In US or KTM or Out of KTM or In other country?

I challenged Kastamanap & Rookie or any other to come and live in Nepal for 2 years and justifie your points. Don't come to nepal for month or 2 and travel like tourist, shop like tourist and suggest this is what we should do>>>

"I told my mum to gather around the local women with "gagri" and go to the nearby chowk and chant for 1 hr and show your solidarity."
Excusme! what?!? Explain "soliditary"

Kastamandap, I seriously have stopped caring about Nepal, its been years this thing is going on so I say leave it to the King/government. The protesters cant do nothing but they really are the chaosmakers and destructers.

ghaito ma haina, bahira ekdam gham lagya cha aja, balla spring aayo jasto lagyo, kasto ramailo weather cha :)

Revolution is a change le chef du nuit, I dont know how you related it to my post.

Okay, taking part in protest is seriously useless. There def is a better way to make a country better.

I was a school going teenager during the 1990 revolution and because of my participation then we now see a different Nepal. I knew nothing then but went out on the streets and survived one army man's threat who could shoot me if he wanted too. I also defied curfews by playing hide and seek with the army. Defying curfews like they are doing now was kind of out of the question. (What the the protestors are able to do during the curfew is because they have experienced democracy unlike in 1990 when we were still living in fear of what the king could do because we never knew what democracy was) My parents hid protestors during police chase in our homes and fed them. I knew all this had to be for a good reason. Everyone was so happy when the king declared democracy. It was late into the night when we learnt about it. Majority were happy.

In these years Nepal has seen a lot of changes probably which we wouldn't have if Nepal was still an autocratic country. I remember Mahanagar, Kantipur and other mainstream media sprouting to keep us informed. It kept us updated of what was going on in the country and also what was going on with the parties. But democracy was new to us, we didn't know how to take charge of it so we simply stood back and compalined while the parties played a game with us. They reaped the benifits of our ignorance and the situation in Nepal continued to degrade because we could not hold them accontable for their fowl games. We hated them for all that the did but whose fault was it? It was our ignorance and our inability to hold them accountable. Domocracy is for the people of the people, by the people but it turned out to be for the parties, of the the parties and by the parties. We had no role in it though we played a vital role in bring democracy for ourselves. We were more engaged in trying to make a life for ourselves by starting new ventures, doing different businesses, taking up various careers not thought of and going abroad for further studies. We got that opportunity and nothing else really mattered till we finally realised the degrading situation of our country. The good about it all was that we were kept informed about all that was happening. (When Nepal was an autocratic country we knew very little and feared to speak out).

We began to understand politics is a dirty game and we shouldn't meddle with it, while we amused ourselves to all the political happenings we failed to understand what we wanted out it. It is our democracy but we let the parties distribute our share. We never learnt how to demand for our share though we were equal partners to bringing democracy. Now down the years, we are slowly learning the truth. Lets not forget that it is our democracy and we were learning. Democracy is still in its infant stage and it will take time to mature. Now that we know, we shall not be fooled by the parties. The people of Kathmandu thought to be the educated ones should understand and actively take part in the revolution. I'm dissapointed to know that my friends and family all think this game is none of their business.

I was one of them when I was in Nepal. I stayed away from politics in every possible way but now that I'm in the united states I am learning the true meaning of democracy. I was never so much interested in the affairs of my country than I am now. But what can I do, I can't go out in the streets or desire to go back to kathamandu, this being said I know you all will have your own thoughts but we are all away from home for a reason and not not caring for our country is not even the last on the list. I love my country dearly and try to find out what's going on there. The only way I can possibly help is by donating a few money here and there through various channels that are more serious than I am about the state of my country. We all don't have to participate in this revolution but we cannot be so ignorant and so dissociated like the many people in Kathmandu or US or anywhere else for that matter. It is very evident that the locals haven't been charged yet and it is saddening to know that these original inhabitants care less about politics when it is their place that so much influences the whole country. Many think Kathmandu is Nepal and perhaps the inhabitants are happy with their share but the Maoist problem is what Nepal is really about. The problem is all because democracy is in it's infant stage and while the commons tried to make a life for themselves, the educated like Baburam tried to have a greater influence in the country and during the process took a different approach because in this age it is sad that no one hears you unless you turn violent. I believe the same in this revolution. We should have a peaceful approach but because it's a mob we are talking here, nothing can be predicted and the mob will act accordingly to the pressure they face. Ofcourse the revolution should still be peaceful but I'm expecting my very own people of Kathmandu to stand up.

Let's look at the problem in the country as our lack of understanding of the power the we people have and only if we unite we can think of a Nepal that will never be the same, otherwise think about what is to become of Nepal under the rule of Gyanendra and Paras. I'd prefer corrupt politicians than these two guys, atleast I can yell at them when I want to instead of living in fear to voice my concerns. And to have it the way the country wants we all have to take interest in politics because we shape the future of our country and shouldn't not leave it to others. This is possible because we are more informed than we were two decades ago but there has to be a willingness among us that each of us can make a difference. We all should take part in every small way we can. But almost all of Kathmandu want to stay away from it. It is this ignorance that we perhaps will not see a greater Nepal and think of Democracy restored withot the help of local inhabitants. The whole country will perhaps look to people of Kathmandu as sissies.