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bidhan408
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Posted on 06-24-06 4:36
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Just compare this two statements from prachanda and maoist. 1.Prachanda says army has done nothing except killing and raping and it should be reduced in numbers from 90000 to 20000 decreasing the number by staggering 70000. 2.Maoist in another statement wants maoist rebels to be included in nepal army it is quite evident maoist wants nepal army with full of ex maoist rebels who willl be in future loyal to maoist. prachanda is another tyrant in the making if nepal army becomes loyal to maoist. SPA be careful.
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karmarana
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Posted on 06-24-06 5:54
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That's a great evidence !!! Good job. He is a dictator in sheep's skin.. So Prachanda must be Crushed!!!!!!!!
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Posted on 06-24-06 6:18
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Agree with both of you...Hope the SPA will soon realize and do something about it...After all, what he wants is what the King wants......so, I wonder why the SPA don't do anything about it?? He needs to be humiliated just like the King......he should be kept life in prison.....We all know what his crimes are...so, why the delay?
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chuparustam
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Posted on 06-25-06 7:01
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I dont know the intention of the maoists, but I do think army has to be more transparent , more disciplined and more productive... Don`t forget the nagarkot kanda. That is something that was big and came in news. Go to ask the locals for more.... http://merosansar.blogsome.com/2005/12/16/nagarkot-photo-feature/
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bidhan408
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Posted on 06-25-06 7:18
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chupa rustan do you mean somebody from the top level ordered the army to shoot in nagarkot. Nagarkot kanda was due to insanity of one person and whole army or its officer cannot be held responsible. Anyway this thread is about prachanda and his motives. It is clear from the two statements that he wants to gain control over the nepal army where almost all the army will be loyal to prachanda.
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chuparustam
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Posted on 06-25-06 7:45
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Well, about the above two statements, 1. reduce the RNA to 20000. 2. mix the maoist PLA with the RNA . number of PLA is only 10000. still RNA men overrun the moaist by 2:1. moreover, RNA men are more well trained, well fed than PLA. So why do you think Prachanda can control the army with this merger!!!!
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chuparustam
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Posted on 06-25-06 7:59
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To everyone who support RNA, i was also a blind supporter of it until recently. I gave a second thought and found that RNA is merely a white elephant. A poor country like Nepal can`t affort to have it.(as it is right now.) We need to reduce it and make it more productive. I request everyone to think rationally and give logic behind any statement. I might be wrong but, if you think I am wrong please prove it with logical statement. I will appolosize if you prove that I am wrong.
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bidhan408
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Posted on 06-25-06 8:00
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prachanda actually said he wants to reduce it to 10000 or 20000. Another maoist contradicts the statement by saying all the rebels should be included in the nepal army. Just think if anybody has half the power of nepal army. How strong he would be . if the army is already more than requrired then whats the use of enrolling new army from maoist. This is a dangerous ploy. and chuparustam if nepal army is well trained and equipped then whats the use of enrolling maoist rebel. And is prachanda so dumb that he wants to decrease a well trained nepal army and give that place to not so much well trained weaker maoist. Whats his motive there. Dont you think that giving chances to not so well trained person makes nepal army weaker. He wants to have a stronghold on nepal army and that is the fact. this is just the start and i know his demands will not stop here.
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Posted on 06-25-06 8:20
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and chupa rustam. who will give jobs to those70-80000 armys. many of them are widow, brother , sisters, sons of ex army who has been killed by the same prachande. who will look after their family. And do you think prachande reallyl cares about nepalese economy. If he would have cared about nepalese economy he would have never destroyed infrastructures of nepal. He would not have blown out stations, bridges, and many other infrastructures. His war was against government not against infrastructures. and guess who talkes about murdering and raping of many people. This blood sucker prachande is a hypocrite. Jo chor uskai thulo swor. You may dance to his tune but i wont accept what he said. hajrau manche marera hero paltiya chaa yeslai.
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chuparustam
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Posted on 06-25-06 8:20
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I think the number 10000 or 20000 is just an example prachanda gave. What he wants to say is that we need to reduce the number of army. And I support him for that. I do believe that number of army should be reduced. If you are afraid that maoist might dominate the new army if the ex-RNA men are reduced, you might want to make the new number 30000 instead of 20000. Still we do need to reduce....thats the demand of the present time. About the merger of the PLA men, it is because the PLA men have to be solved. The immediate thing would be to merge it with the RNA. Well, if we doubt that merger would make PLA strong we should think of another option. Like make the PLA half and merge.. and put the half into new jobs... We do have to think of a solution of the PLA men.. They have fought for Nepalese people... (at least thats what it seems at the present moment) Bidhan said,>>He wants to have a stronghold on nepal army and that is the fact. this is just the start and i know his demands will not stop here. if Prachanda will demand more and try to dictate, then we should rise against him at that moment. It is if......then... statemet. What if the helicopter Prachanda is travelling is bombed... !! What if after dismantling PLA, RNA does a coup..... Do you trust Pyar Jung?? Do you think king is sitting still right now?? I doubt on King and Pyar Jung more than Prachanda. So, I support him right now.
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Posted on 06-25-06 8:24
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and chupa rustam. who will give jobs to those70-80000 armys. many of them are widow, brother , sisters, sons of ex army who has been killed by the same prachande. who will look after their family. And do you think prachande reallyl cares about nepalese economy. If he would have cared about nepalese economy he would have never destroyed infrastructures of nepal. He would not have blown out stations, bridges, and many other infrastructures. His war was against government not against infrastructures. and guess who talkes about murdering and raping of many people. This blood sucker prachande is a hypocrite. Jo chor uskai thulo swor. You may dance to his tune but i wont.
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bidhan408
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Posted on 06-25-06 8:33
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you said "if Prachanda will demand more and try to dictate, then we should rise against him at that moment" Haha when did we rise againt maoist when they were doing so much of atrocities. The fact of the matter any power given to prachanda will be leathal. And i dislike king but i hate this maoist more. And the way they talk nowadays in media they act as a saviour of nation and hero of any movie. why dont they because there are always people like you who will support their atrocities.
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karmarana
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Posted on 06-25-06 8:54
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I agree 100% with you bro Bidhan in this one.
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chuparustam
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Posted on 06-25-06 10:08
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1.who will give jobs to those70-80000 armys. many of them are widow, brother , sisters, sons of ex army who has been killed by the same prachande. who will look after their family. Please think again. Where does the money come from for paying the army personnel right now.. its the tax we pay to government. The government has allowed the budget for the army and the army gets the salary through that. That means we can still keep supporting the salary of army with the same budget which was supposed as salary. We do not need additional money for 80000 new men who will be jobless!! The concept of cutting 80000 men from army and 80000 jobless people is different. The army is not earning their bread by themselves.. I hope you are clear in this matter. If you think the army is earning money please clearify me..(apart from the RNA inUN missions, britsh gorkha, and indian army which would not total that big number. sorry i dont know the total) 2. And do you think prachande reallyl cares about nepalese economy. About economy, I think it should be handed over to the professionals. A political leader is not able enough to handle all the matters.. Besides I don't see any leader till now who cared about the economy of Nepal. The thing they did was care about the economy of themselves and their relatives. 3. If he would have cared about nepalese economy he would have never destroyed infrastructures of nepal. He would not have blown out stations, bridges, and many other infrastructures. His war was against government not against infrastructures. Well, it was a war time. The PLA men have to defend themselves.. The bridges used to carry truck full of RNA who would kill them. Do you think if they didnt do that, an armed revolution would be possible? Do you remember Girija actually hijacked aeroplane.. the congress people also took arms for 2007 revolution.. Just wait and see. If maoist come to power we will come to know of all the things RNA did during these 10 years.. Some are already out. Read the stories of bhairabnath battalion in united we blog. http://www.blog.com.np/united-we-blog/2006/05/26/stories-of-horror-from-nepals-abu-ghrahib-ii/ 4.when did we rise againt maoist when they were doing so much of atrocities. Well, I think maoist are still in gray zone. They haven't proved to be good or bad. So, there is no question of rising against them. The SPA has proved to be bad. We didn't bother to rise againt them. The King proved to be selfish time and again. It took 200 years to rise against King. Lets see what maoists turn out to be. One more thing, dont you think that the present government is actually doing things which were the things maoists wanted to do in the beginning??SPA after the parliament was reinstalled, 1. made the house of representatives to be supreme and put the king under the constitution. 2. made Nepal into a secular nation blah blah... whose demand was this originally?? maoists! the SPA was in power for 12 years... but they never bothered to even think of it. They didn't have those agendas in the party constitution.. they put it in the end... I will give the credit for this to Maoists not SPA. So, I want to give a chance to prachanda.
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chuparustam
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Posted on 06-25-06 10:16
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One more thing about economy, I think there should be a deep study on it. We should look for what resources we have right now.. I dont know about the herb prachanda is saying.. I hope some clerify about it. But the possibilities of water resource, herbs, minerals (if any is found), natural gases n so on. If we dont have enough, then we should think what we can do next?? May be a good idea would be produce human resource. Then we should invest on education and produce professionals..May be we might want to develop nepal as tourist destination.. for that we need to develop attractions.. so on... We might take the example of Japan. They dont have much resource but they maintain to be No.2 economy in the world. I read the column in kantipur that the whole idea of Nepal being rich in water resource is not true. Can you believe it?? For my whole life, I had hopes that utilising the water resource we will develop one day! Well there should be studies to prove if it is true or not! I think we should come together and be serious at least once.
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karmarana
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Posted on 06-29-06 11:41
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I don't care what the fugging ulterior motive of Prachanda..but that will get himself CRUSGHED soon
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