[VIEWED 16585
TIMES]
|
SAVE! for ease of future access.
|
|
The postings in this thread span 2 pages, go to PAGE 1.
This page is only showing last 20 replies
|
|
shirish
Please log in to subscribe to shirish's postings.
Posted on 12-04-06 5:25
PM
Reply
[Subscribe]
|
Login in to Rate this Post:
0
?
|
|
सयौं थूंगा फूलका हामी, एउटै माला नेपाली सार्वभौम भइ फैलिएका, मेची-महाकाली । प्रकृतिका कोटी-कोटी सम्पदाको आंचल वीरहरुका रगतले, स्वतन्त्र र अटल। ज्ञानभूमि, शान्तिभूमि तराई, पहाड, हिमाल अखण्ड यो प्यारो हाम्रो मातृभूमि नेपाल । बहुल जाति, भाषा, धर्म, संस्कृति छन् विशाल अग्रगामी राष्ट्र हाम्रो, जय जय नेपाल ।
|
|
|
The postings in this thread span 2 pages, go to PAGE 1.
This page is only showing last 20 replies
|
|
tshetensherpa
Please log in to subscribe to tshetensherpa's postings.
Posted on 12-04-06 9:22
PM
Reply
[Subscribe]
|
Login in to Rate this Post:
0
?
|
|
2,3 barsa ho tyo pachi ta maobadi sarkar aucha ani feri naya National anthem bancha........ "Shree 5 sarkar PRACHANDA pratapi bhupati ki jaya..." well about this national anthem....i still feel...we should have to take a time and to collect more and more others and then to choose from other ones.......well its mah personal feelings.....sorrie if some people doesnt like it ..
|
|
|
shirish
Please log in to subscribe to shirish's postings.
Posted on 12-06-06 12:01
PM
Reply
[Subscribe]
|
Login in to Rate this Post:
0
?
|
|
"It is our utmost pride to enlist in this anthology the song penned by His Majesty King Gyanendra, who is highly respected in Nepali literature under the name of G Shah." Did poet Maila make a mistake? BY SHEKHAR KHAREL KATHMANDU, Dec 5 - Had the National Anthem Selection Committee headed by Satya Mohan Joshi anticipated such a hue and cry over the outcome of its task, he might have withdrawn his name. Following the announcement of lyrics by Byakul Maila (Pradeep Kumar Rai) as the best among over one thousand entries, the whole nation is divided, with some elated and others baffled over Rai's entry being proposed for the national anthem. Ironically, the committee headed by Joshi, a towering personality in the domain of culture and literature, and including other eminent personalities such as virtuoso Amber Gurung, poet Bairagi Kainla, Durga Lal Shrestha, Modnath Prashrit, Ramesh Shrestha, Shrawan Mukarung, Dr Benju Sharma, Amar Giri, Nanda Krishna Joshi, Gopal Thakur, Aahuti and Bund Rana - all arguably non-controversial personalities and held in the highest esteem, - had eventually accomplished a most onerous task. The Post approached many prominent names in Nepali literature to learn of their views on the selection of the anthem. Many of them only said 'no comment' and modestly distanced themselves from any further controversy. The controversy over the proposed anthem further deepened with poet Maila's alleged role in editing 'Nepali Geetsangraha- 2059' (Collection of Nepali Songs 2059) coming to light. The preface of the collection reads, "It is our utmost pride to enlist in this anthology the song penned by His Majesty King Gyanendra, who is highly respected in Nepali literature under the name of G Shah." But what is intriguing now has nothing to do with Maila. It happens to concern the methodology of the commission. They did not go for a process in which they could ask the writers to produce their full resumes along with a list of their publications. The Committee selected the poems without knowing who the writers were. "We've recommended this anthem to the cabinet as per the mandate given to the Committee," said selection teams coordinator Joshi. Regarding the substance of the poem and the poet's alleged role in the past, Joshi adds, "we were not given the names of the poets during the screening. The poem was the best among all entries and the Committee selected it unanimously." "It was a daunting task to select a poem limited to hundred words," Joshi clarified. "How many rivers or mountains can you put in? The nation is secular now, so the question of religions and deities is redundant. Basically we focused on metaphors and Maila's piece is good in that." However, the committee was also mandated to look into past works as well as form a selection group comprising renowned personalities if the open competition failed to find a suitable poem. Though the Committee opted for the most democratic process, voices are being raised by many eminent poets that Maila's piece is a banal one. "This is a childish approach", opines poet Bimal Niva and asks, "What do you expect when you call a tender? Writers of high esteem might not participate in such an awkward situation." "It would have been wiser to approach capable writers or look into previous songs," Niva suggested, adding, "I think Rato Ra Chandra Surya by Gopal Prasad Rimal is best suited here." Poet Mohan Koirala also shares a similar view. "This is devoid of sentiment, rhythm and patriotism," he argues, "the poem is too superficial." "We could have chosen one from previous works, such as Rato Ra Chandra Surya". Whatever the accolades or criticisms pouring in these days, the thought that looms is once you give people the opportunity to participate with a promise not to select by writers' names you should equally give them assurance that they are not betrayed. Hence, was it a mistake on the part of Maila to participate in this 'tender' for a national song? http://www.kantipuronline.com/kolnews.php?&nid=93656
|
|
|
Hi_nanu
Please log in to subscribe to Hi_nanu's postings.
Posted on 12-06-06 12:20
PM
Reply
[Subscribe]
|
Login in to Rate this Post:
0
?
|
|
I love Nepal and Nepali...We are not only human beings ...We are social beings and rich in our culture...but I don't know why thesedays our people always come forward with controversy and I don't see any reason to drag into Bayakul Maila's selection into Controversy... Teso bhae ta Maila naam pani hunu bhaena kinabhane Gyanendra ko aajbholi ko nick name pani Maila nai chha... Teso Bhae ta Gyanendra naam nai bahisakar garnu paryo... Deuba lai gyanendrale nai niyukta garya ho deuba lai pani bahiskar garnu paryo maobadi le Gyanedra ka chamcha haru sanga pani barta garekai ho,prachanda lai pani bahiskar garnu apryo Madhav nepal ko party deuba sarkarma gaekai ho Pratigaman sachhiyo bhandai Madhav Nepal le dam chadaera dhog garekai ho... it was different time when Byakul wrote couple of sentences being thankful to G shah,that's it ...Esma babaal machhaunu aprne k kura chha? "Desh lai desh jaso gari chalna dinu parchha,machha bazzar jasto hoina".
|
|
|
shirish
Please log in to subscribe to shirish's postings.
Posted on 12-06-06 1:45
PM
Reply
[Subscribe]
|
Login in to Rate this Post:
0
?
|
|
Hi nanu Byakul Maila is so apt as a nick name for Gyanendra and his situation . Gyanendra is a "oralo lageko mriga" right now and even bacho will khedo him. People do tend to look for association and I don't think its unhuman. I do think this "national anthem" will remain.
|
|
|
Rahuldai
Please log in to subscribe to Rahuldai's postings.
Posted on 12-06-06 2:08
PM
Reply
[Subscribe]
|
Login in to Rate this Post:
0
?
|
|
HI_nanu जी यहाँ निर म तपाईं सित सहमत हुन सकिन है । कुरो माइला, ठाइलाक होइन । कुरो इमान्दरिताको हो । राम्रो रचना थियो , छनौट भयो, यसमा नि शंका छैन ।कुरो नेताको भए ल ठीक छ, बेइमान हरु कै रजाइ छ भनुं । मामला राष्ट्रीय गान र साहित्यको पर्यो । यहाँ इमान को कुरो उठ्नु, यहाँ मुल्य र मान्याताको कुरो,अनी नियत को कुरो उठ्नु स्वाभाबिक लाग्छ मलाई । २-४ जना साहित्य क्षेत्रका धुपौरेहरु छाडेर, कबि-साहित्यकार् हरु इमानदारिको खेती गरेर नाम खान्छन्, आस्थाको निंद्रा सुत्छन्, अनि भावनामा जिन्दगी लाइ सजाउन्छन । केही समय अघी मात्र राजाको चातुकारीतामा प्रसस्त मसी खर्चिने माइला रातारात क्रान्तिकारी हुन्छन भने सन्देह को दृष्टिले हेरिनु पनि पर्दछ । त्यसको अर्थ यो होइन कि ब्याकुल माइलको रचनाको सम्मान गर्नै हुँदैन । अन्तिम निर्ण गर्नु अघी यावत कुरा म बिचार गर्नु मनासिब जस्तो लाग्छ । युग युग सम्म रही रहने रचना बिबाद मुक्त हुनै पर्छ । नत्र अरु पनि छन हाम्रो देश मा भजन गाउने द्लालहरु, चित्त दुखाउलान फेरी । अस्तु!
|
|
|
Hi_nanu
Please log in to subscribe to Hi_nanu's postings.
Posted on 12-06-06 2:19
PM
Reply
[Subscribe]
|
Login in to Rate this Post:
0
?
|
|
केही समय अघी मात्र राजाको चातुकारीतामा प्रसस्त मसी खर्चिने माइला रातारात क्रान्तिकारी हुन्छन भने सन्देह को दृष्टिले हेरिनु पनि पर्दछ "It is our utmost pride to enlist in this anthology the song penned by His Majesty King Gyanendra, who is highly respected in Nepali literature under the name of G Shah." Rahul dai,yo 2 lines bahek aru kunai G. Shah prati Byakul Maila le Masi kharcha gareko kura baahir aae jasto ta malai lagdaina...Byakta garieko bhawana le Rastra lai pratinidhitwa garchha ki gardaina thulo kura ho...Manchhele aafulai Sudhar garne mauka paunu parchha hoina ra... "Everyone has the right to be stupid sometimes................some just abuse the privilege. "
|
|
|
Rahuldai
Please log in to subscribe to Rahuldai's postings.
Posted on 12-06-06 2:30
PM
Reply
[Subscribe]
|
Login in to Rate this Post:
0
?
|
|
Hi_nanu जी, अब कुरो मिल्यो हाम्रो । चातुकार हरुको मुल्याङ्कन को लागि अर्को पाना खोज्नु पर्दैन । मैले अघी नै भने नि रचना उत्कृष्ट छ, शंका छैन भनेर । तर उक्त चाकडी का शब्दहरु बनावटी थिए कि मन भित्रबात निश्रीत भ को उद्बोधन हो, बुझुनु जरुरी छ । गल्ती नै गरेको भए नि १ पटक त भगवान ले नि माफि दिन्छ, र दिनु पनि पर्छ । तेही भएर अझ केलाउनु पर्दछ भनेको हुन्, राष्ट्र गान को लागि अयोग्य छ भनेको छुइअन है ।
|
|
|
kapeel
Please log in to subscribe to kapeel's postings.
Posted on 12-07-06 4:45
AM
Reply
[Subscribe]
|
Login in to Rate this Post:
0
?
|
|
hatar ma gareko kehi kaam ramro hudaina hai .so take time for a new national anthem
|
|
|
Riten
Please log in to subscribe to Riten's postings.
Posted on 12-07-06 4:59
AM
Reply
[Subscribe]
|
Login in to Rate this Post:
0
?
|
|
Let me throw in a twist of speculative controversy. Is this another instance of so called Bahun-baad rearing its ugly head? Would there be as much hubris had the author's last name been Upadhyaya or Sharma or Tiwari instead of Rai? Or is it just plain and simple cliche-ed trait, Nepalis pulling each other's legs? Khoi, kya ho kya ho..........
|
|
|
ashu
Please log in to subscribe to ashu's postings.
Posted on 12-07-06 7:36
AM
Reply
[Subscribe]
|
Login in to Rate this Post:
0
?
|
|
Shekar Kharel writes: "But what is intriguing now has nothing to do with Maila. It happens to concern the methodology of the commission. They did not go for a process in which they could ask the writers to produce their full resumes along with a list of their publications. The Committee selected the poems without knowing who the writers were." **** Give me a break. What's so intriguing with this sort of a 'blind' selection process, in which ONLY and ONLY what you submit validly is considered on its supposed merits or lack thereof and NOT on the basis of who you are, who your parents are, what your political ideology is and what you have done in the past? Since subjectivity and biases do play a big role in deciding what constitutes "art" (i.e. what constitutes great poetry, films, music, literature, etc), it's a widely used practice in the arts world to use some sort of 'blind process' to filter out any biases that judges may have when choosing a particular work of art or artist. Orchestras, for instance, have 'blind auditions' so that the judges are NOT influenced by the color or the gender of the muscician playing the instrument. In this case in Nepal, the judges did NOT know who wrote that poem when they first chose it among hundreds of other submitted poems to be the new national anthem. That was actually a good thing: the 'blind' selection thing. Now, do we all have to like the judges' choice? No. Besides, no poem satisfies everyone everywhere. But does the judges' choice have a validity regardless of what one thinks of Maila's once-upon-a-time dedication to King G? Yes. I mean, you can't form a national committee, give it the authority to do x y and z, and then start attacking it when it comes up with solutions you don't like. That's stupid. Many years ago, using a similar 'blind process' an undergraduate's design for a memorial-building was chosen over other designs submitted by world-class designers. That undergrad's name? Maya Lin (then at Yale) The design for the bulding she submitted anonymously? Vietnam Veterans Memorial ******** My sense is that some vocal sections of the Nepali Left is really pissed off that they could exercise ZERO influence in the selection of the national anthem. Since they can't attack the committee outright, they have to flex their muscles by indulging in assasinating Maila's character. That's a shame. My point: Accept the poem. Give up the controversy. Move on to weightier matters to strength the democracy. On a side note: I am amused that the old anthem had the work "prachanda" in it. This one has "gyan" in it. oohi ashu
|
|
|
tshetensherpa
Please log in to subscribe to tshetensherpa's postings.
Posted on 12-07-06 9:30
AM
Reply
[Subscribe]
|
Login in to Rate this Post:
0
?
|
|
What i cant understand is .. This is a national anthem.....or is this the anthem which has to say that gyane chor desh chod...or something...?National anthem is national anthem.......we need new because old one mostly talk about king and the nation....its okai but why the debate about the poem......Yeah i accept that it should have to take a time to decide the poem....but the debate about his intentions is absurd...... political parties praise the king in past....and they are rant the king now.....people like that.......and when one poet praise the king in past and now he wrote a national anthem in a hope that his name will be in history....THAT IS BAD? " Poet Mohan Koirala also shares a similar view. "This is devoid of sentiment, rhythm and patriotism," he argues, "the poem is too superficial."" and Yeah...if it is all about he is indegenious and his creation shouldnot have to be praised then WAKEUP all so called poet ....Give some respect to the creation....Respect the creation...not who he is....... Still cant believe that we are in 21st century Nepal...... Well.....if the reason is he is indegenious and if the another new anthem is choosed ......for me...i will never accept that new anthem from mah heart ...neva in life.......its mah personal feelings.....sorrie if anione feels bad about this........
|
|
|
tshetensherpa
Please log in to subscribe to tshetensherpa's postings.
Posted on 12-07-06 9:42
AM
Reply
[Subscribe]
|
Login in to Rate this Post:
0
?
|
|
or Make the "Rato Ra Chandra Surya or Hati haina Dati ladne Nepali ko baani huncha...." National Anthem....i think they need some corrections...otherwise...this songs are beautifull written and touch the feelings...........
|
|
|
himaliketo
Please log in to subscribe to himaliketo's postings.
Posted on 12-07-06 11:01
AM
Reply
[Subscribe]
|
Login in to Rate this Post:
0
?
|
|
This Should not be National Anthem.It must be changed!!This new song is not better than any children's song to the country.IF it became the National anthem i am not going to sing and stand for this song.And The Selection committee should put the best song together and get the Vote from the all audience not only from few people.So let's put the voice together to change the National anthem....
|
|
|
Rahuldai
Please log in to subscribe to Rahuldai's postings.
Posted on 12-07-06 12:58
PM
Reply
[Subscribe]
|
Login in to Rate this Post:
0
?
|
|
हाँ जात पात को कुरो उठ्ठ्यो, त्यही होला भनेर त कोडिङ्ग गरेर मूल्यान्कन गरेको रहेछ्, छनौट समितिले ।एक ज मित्र ले बाहुनबाद्को अपशब्द प्रयोगगर्नु भयो, समितिको सबै जनाको नाम हेर्नु भए हुन्छ, बरु त्यसमा चै एउटा राजानैतीक धारको मात्र बढी प्रतिनिधित्व भाको देखिन्छ । जे होस्, विद्वानहरु हुन्, सलाम गर्नै पर्छ, ब्याकुल माइलाको रचना राम्रो छ, यो भन्दा नि राम्रा कविताहरु पढेको छु मैले । यसमाने म मेरो आदरणिय कबी नै हुनु हुन्छ, यदि बिबाद मा मुछिन्छ भने, सफाइ दिनु नै जाती हुन्छ । चाकडी र चुप्लिसी मा साहित्यलाइ बिटुलो पारेको छ भ चाँही साबधान है! नत्र कालीप्रसाद रिजाल, ताना शर्मा, जस्ता भजन गाउने दलाल र ब्याकुल जी म के फरक रहला र ?
|
|
|
Hi_nanu
Please log in to subscribe to Hi_nanu's postings.
Posted on 12-07-06 1:02
PM
Reply
[Subscribe]
|
Login in to Rate this Post:
0
?
|
|
I agree with tshetensherpa 'Rato Ra Chandra Surya or Hati haina Dati ladne Nepali ko baani huncha"-could be a better choice for national anthem..
|
|
|
Rahuldai
Please log in to subscribe to Rahuldai's postings.
Posted on 12-07-06 1:08
PM
Reply
[Subscribe]
|
Login in to Rate this Post:
0
?
|
|
रातो र चन्द्र सुर्य सम्म ठीक छ, तर त्यस्पछि को शब्द हरु हेर्नुस् त, भावना मा बहेर मात्र मिल्दैन नानु जी ।! जङ्गी निशान सँग राश्ट्र गान कहाँ जोडने ? यो त सेनाको गे हुन्छ । हटि होइन त झन ४ हो कि ६ क्लास मा कक्षागत गीत भनेर राखेको बाल गीत हो, सिङ्गो राष्ट्रको प्रतिनिधित्व गर्दैन ।
|
|
|
Rahuldai
Please log in to subscribe to Rahuldai's postings.
Posted on 12-09-06 10:24
AM
Reply
[Subscribe]
|
Login in to Rate this Post:
0
?
|
|
Shirish ji, dhaago suru garera kaha bepatta ni? tapaiko ni dhaarana sunna paaye hunthyo, sahityik tippani jaaos na.
|
|
|
sayapatri
Please log in to subscribe to sayapatri's postings.
Posted on 12-09-06 8:22
PM
Reply
[Subscribe]
|
Login in to Rate this Post:
0
?
|
|
गीत राम्रो छ । मेरो विचारमा अल्ली हलुको भयो कि जस्तो लाग्यो । एक पटक ब्याकुलजीले यो गीत लाई देशभक्तिले मुटु उचाल्ने , रगत तताउने र नेपालका शत्रु तर्शाउने किसिमका गहिरा शब्दहरु राख्नु पर्यो जस्तो लाग्यो । अझै पनि समय छ । मैले सुनेको थिए, २०१५ साल तिर को कुरा हो, नयाँ दिल्ली ले अ_म्ब्_र गुरुङ्ले गाएको नेपालको एउटा राष्ट्रिय गीत बजाउन रोक लगाएको थियो । त्यस्को मुल कारण थियो ईन्डियाका नेपाली हरु लाई त्यो गीत ले भावनात्मक बनाइदिएको थियो, हामी नेपाली एक हुनुपर्छ भन्ने गरी रगत तताएको थियो । राष्ट्रिय गीत एक जना कै रचना हुनु पर्छ भन्ने केही छैन । त्यस्लाई परिमर्जीत गर्न हिच्किछौंउ हुँदैन । त्यति_का १००० गीत सार्वजनिक गरेको भए सर्बसाधारण जनता ले पनि भोटिङ गर्न पाउने थिए । के एक जना को रचना को एउटा हरफ आर्को रचनकार को आर्को हरफ सँग पनि त मिलाउन सक्इन्छ नि । यो गीत कता कता बाल कार्यक्रम मा प्रथम भएको कबिता जस्तो लागेको छ मलाई । यो मेरो ब्यक्तिगत बिचार हो । अलिकति ब्याकुलजी ले यो गीत लाई मान्छे जुर्मुराउने गहिरा शब्द ले परिमर्जीत गरिदिनु भए राम्रो हुन्थ्यो कि ।
|
|
|
Rahuldai
Please log in to subscribe to Rahuldai's postings.
Posted on 12-09-06 9:21
PM
Reply
[Subscribe]
|
Login in to Rate this Post:
0
?
|
|
सयपत्री जी सँग म पूर्ण सहमत छु । तपाईंले भने जस्तै राष्ट्र गीत ले मुटु छुनु सक्नु पर्छ, आत्म लाइ जुरुक्क उचाल्न सक्नु पर्छ, राम्रो रचना भैकन पनि त्यो श्रेणिमा परेन कि ?
|
|
|
shirish
Please log in to subscribe to shirish's postings.
Posted on 12-09-06 10:17
PM
Reply
[Subscribe]
|
Login in to Rate this Post:
0
?
|
|
एक तरीकाले सोच्ने हो भने स्तरीय नभा'को ठीक हो ! आर्को तरीकाले सोच्ने हो भने स्तर नभएको कारण हुन सक्छ । राष्ट्रीय गीत भनेको सबैले बुझ्नु पर्छ ! मोहन कोईरालाको स्तरमा लेखेर कति प्रतिशत नेपालीले बुझ्ने ? नेपेको स्तरमा लेख्या गजल जस्तै हुन्छ ;-) यहां अमेरीकाका पनि जब informed consent हरु लेखिन्छ त आठ कक्षाको स्तर हुनु पर्छ । निर्णायक मण्डलीले लेखकलाई बोलाएर शब्द हेरफेर गर्न लाईएको पनि छ र यसको सम्पर्ण जिम्मेबारी निर्णायक मण्डलीले लिनु पर्छ । दूर्गालाल श्रेष्ठले भन्नु भा' थियो, बिबिसि लाई कि यस्ले नेपालको भुगोल, धर्म, प्रकृति, सम्पदा, आदी ईत्यादी सबै समेटेको छ । सिमित शब्दमा भन्न त गार्हो हुन्छ । बिस्तृत भैकन फिलिङ नभएको कुरा म मान्दछु ! some suggested reading http://www.nepalnews.com/contents/2006/nepaliweekly/deshantar/dec/dec03/literature.php#3 http://www.nepalnews.com.np/contents/2006/nepaliweekly/satyagraha/dec/dec04/index.php#2 "राष्ट्रगान छनौट भएपछि देशप्रति मेरो जिम्मेबारी थपिएको छ ।" -ब्याकुल माईला, नवोदित साहित्यकार (http://www.kantipuronline.com/kol/saptahik/color.pdf page 3 Dec 8th 2006)
|
|