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Ghopachee
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Posted on 02-26-07 4:12
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Surya Bahadur Thapa Interview: Hidden Messages? 26/02/2007 By Dinesh Wagle Wagle’s Web Log Surya Bahadur Thapa has appeared in TV today in a very suspicious manner to defend the king. Former Prime Minister Thapa, who formed his Rastriya Janashakti Party after the royal takeover of Feb 2005, today told Kantipur TV’s Fire Side program (hosted by Bhusan Dahal) that the Interim Parliament has no right to take any action against the monarchy. “This parliament is not sovereign,†Thapa, a lifelong royalist who was instrumental in repressing democratic movement in the dark autocratic days of pre-1990 Panchayat system, said. “Only the Constituent Assembly can decide on big national issues. We shouldn’t give importance to who says what. The king can’t have any impact.†Thapa, who was nominated the Prime Minister by Gyanendra after the king with autocratic ambition, dismissed a democratically elected Prime Minster in 2002, also categorically said: “The time hasn’t come for republic.†Thapa said: “When you talk about taking action [against king], you are taking about an individual. A person has given [the statement], how can you strike against the other [monarchy]?†Thapa said, “Let’s wait for a few days and see how the government acts [on the parliaments directive to take action against king]. Meanwhile the government today formally condemned the king for giving out the Democracy day statement without its approval or knowledge. “This is unconstitutional, undemocratic, unauthorized, condemnable and contentious,†government spokesperson and information minister Dilendra Prasad Badu told reporters. “The cabinet has decided to take appropriate action against king based on political understanding [with ruling parties.] These views from government and Thapa come at a time when rumors are doing rounds in Kathmandu that yet another coup, from military, is being mulled in foreign land. Even Prachanda mentioned about such rumors the other day. This must be noted that Surya Bahadur Thapa visited India for about three weeks recently. He came back to Nepal two weeks ago. We have no information what Thapa was doing in India and whom he met. There are many such forces who will not hesitate to exploit and sabotage the current fluid situation in Nepal? Is there any coincidence between Thapa coming to the press and the dubious Upendra Yadav of Madhesi Janaadhikar Forum (MJF or MPRF) re-starting the agitation in Terai for no reason? Will any sensible person believe that MJF is restarting the agitation that clearly threatens the social and communal harmony in Nepal just because they didn’t get Home Minister’s resignation? In addition to this, there is no surety that Yadav will not launch another round of agitation after the Home Minister resigns. He might come with another excuse as he as done in the recent past. That is because he is not deciding for himself; he is working for someone else who wants to create havoc in Nepal. Thapa was asked if he was leading an alliance of pro-king groups. He didn’t categorically deny but said: “Kathmandu is a country that is engulfed by gossips and rumors etc.†He said a broad democratic alliance was necessary to save the sarbamanya prajantra (democracy of wide acceptance) and [to act] against the dictator.†He didn’t elaborate about sarbamanya democracy but it could be easily understood that he was dismissing the democratic republic (or loktantrik ganatantra) and using the “sarbamanya prajantra†term instead. “Who is that dictator?†Thapa was asked. “That will show up itself in a few days,†Thapa said. “Who do you think monarchy is closer to: democratic forces or dictatorship?†Thapa was asked. “You can’t see him closer to either force if you see the statement,†Thapa said. “Monarchy is not the topic for debate. [This whole debate on monarchy] is just a diversion from the main issue.†In the interview with KTV Surya Bahadur Thapa cleverly avoided answering the question on the possibility of CA election by mid-July though he repeatedly stressed on the argument that only CA can do whatever is needed to be done. “Do you think CA election could be held by Jestha?†Bhusan asked. Thapa replied: “No one can end this uncertainty. Only CA can. The sooner the CA comes, the uncertainty will go. But whatever activities are happening….sovereign people are now hostage of Maoists.†Source : UnitedWe blog
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Khaobaadi
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Posted on 02-28-07 4:14
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Royalists should be hunted down like steet dogs and let nature take its course.
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MailoBhai
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Posted on 02-28-07 4:43
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Start with Govinda Raj Joshi
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Khaobaadi
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Posted on 02-28-07 4:50
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MailoBhai Govinda Raj Joshi is CERTIFIED by the highest court in Nepal (Supreme Court) as clean man in Nepali politics. No other politician in the entire history of Nepal has ever achieved such a certification by any independent public institution in Nepal. even B.P. Koirala and Ganesman Singh was unable to receieve sucha certification.
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Khaobaadi
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Posted on 02-28-07 4:59
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Khaobaadi
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Posted on 02-28-07 5:00
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SUPREME COURT OF NEPAL
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ImI
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Posted on 02-28-07 5:19
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Also Terrorist -Maoist has been Certified by People of Nepal or they going too..whatever the case is: Once a terrorist always a terrorist.just like some secy thread ..haha
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Khaobaadi
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Posted on 02-28-07 5:29
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ImI "...People of Nepal..." as you mentioned is not even a public institution however Supreme Court of Nepal is a public institution. "...People of Nepal.." is a vague idea which is neither definate nor specific.
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ImI
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Posted on 02-28-07 5:32
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Ya You are right!! THAT IS VERY VAGUE IDEA AND ANYONE CAN LIKE SPAM AND CIVIL SOCIETYCAN USE IT HOWEVER THEY WANT!! I respect your mahan govidaa maharaj chorsi!!
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Khaobaadi
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Posted on 02-28-07 5:39
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There is no universally accepted defination of "terrorist". One's hero is someone else's fugitive. I dont agree with the American defination of "terrorist" because it has more to do with loyalty towards the Americans rather than the acts committed by any arned individual or an organization. According to the Americans, if an armed organination or an individual acts in favour of American interests they would be very likely designated as "freedom fighters" even if the acts committed by such armed groups or individuals very similar to so called "terrorists".
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Posted on 02-28-07 5:45
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khaobadi i have said this before and saying this again: What differentiate between freedom fighter and terrorist is not the goal but the method to achieve that!!!!! Mahatma Gandhi ,Nelson Madela are true Freedom Fighter! and look at Pachanda Terrorist- these people in history will be known as dictator. And more over Look at Mao, Stalin, Lenin - They were dictator and they will always be known as they are not mahatma. If i go with you what funny things you say,.Then Girija, KHume, Gyanendra and the purest people in Nepal.Then why dumb fu(ks want to kick Gayane out?Your defination will prove him to be the best person in nepal!!!!
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Khaobaadi
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Posted on 02-28-07 5:57
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ImI wrote, "...What differentiate between freedom fighter and terrorist is not the goal but the method to achieve that!!!!! ..." Well, then ...accroding to your understanding there are extremely few leaders in the world that fit into your understanding of "freedom fighters"...and the rest are "terrorists." ..... and in some cases one terrorist fighting the other terrorists I guess.
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Posted on 02-28-07 6:09
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So, for u then - Al queida is freedom fighter..Good !!!!Until they come and bomb your ass. ya Yes you are right.I have very few list of freedom fighter.other fall in the different scale in terrorist list depending upon how much damage it does to innocent lives!! but saying that i didn't imply that they cannot or will not come in power.
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Khaobaadi
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Posted on 02-28-07 7:37
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If we apply your understanding of 'terrorist', there is no doubt that will fall into the terrorist category so will almost all the insurgent groups in all countries around the world as well as many of the governments (of present and the past) in many countries around world. Some examples are 1 Iraqi insurgent groups ------------funded more or less by former Saddam loyalists/Iran. 2 US Armed Forces --------------funded by American taxpayers. 3 Al Quida -------funded by hardline Islamists 4 Contra Rebels of Nicaragua (1979-1990)---------- funded by Ronald Regan administration. 5 Sandanista Rebels of Nicaragua--------funded in part by former USSR 6 Nepal Army ---------funded by Nepali taxpayers 7 Maoists ----------funded by like-mined Nepalese
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ImI
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Posted on 02-28-07 8:53
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Nepal Army is not a terrorist organization .It was for 13 years working for demoractically elected govt.In counterterrorism i admit NA might have taken some innocent lives. But my defination do not apply to NA or Srilankan Army or US Army and likewise. If you give capital punishment to a murderer , Do you call govt. a murderer?It is punishment.but you cannot go and kill a person saying that you are giving a punishment.It is law of the society. When you live in civilized society follow the norms of the society.Otherwise what's the difference between human beings and monkeys?
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Khaobaadi
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Posted on 03-01-07 5:54
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1 ImI previously wrote, "...What differentiate between freedom fighter and terrorist is not the goal but the method to achieve that!!!!! ..." 2 ImI later wrote, "...Nepal Army is not a terrorist organization...." Were the methods of NA any different than those of Maoists ? If we were to measure NA and Maoists by your understanding, why should two different parties be given two very differnt labels for committing crimes of very similar nature ? You are contradicting your own statements ?
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ImI
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Posted on 03-01-07 6:04
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I don't know Khaobadi what part you are not getting it!!!I even gave you example of murderer??Read it!!ya similar nature ??? how similar? Killing during war- well ok! Do you know how inhuman Maoist were /are compared to NA?Some incidents are there of NA not following Geneva convention.But they know it and they atleast try to follow it.Maoist know one law - jungle law.That is why they cannot give a lawful Nepal. NA was fighting to protect Nepalese people and was operated my democratic govt.Who asked for army help first?Girija .who used army..Sher bahadur..So, SPA is terrorist organization?Then your honorable Govida raj joshi is also terrorist! Your defination makes all army around the world terrorist organization.
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Khaobaadi
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Posted on 03-01-07 6:27
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ImI wrote,"....Do you know how inhuman Maoist were /are compared to NA?...." The only difference I find is the fact of "Public vs Secret" Well , Maoists did most of their killings in public (becasue they didnt have barracks to do the killings in secrecy) and NA did killings in secrecy(because the do have barracks and headquarters buildings to do those stuffs) so probably we will never be able to know how humane were NA (compared to Maoists) unless the involved people tell their acts to the public.
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Khaobaadi
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Posted on 03-01-07 6:44
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by the way Govida Raj Joshi is not a terrorist. He is CERTIFIED by Supreme Court of Nepal as clean man. Well, if you dont think the rulings made by the Supreme Court is not worth anything ...what is the point of talking about the 'rule of law' and 'democracy' ? Supreme Court of Nepal certification awarded to Govinda Raj Joshi
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