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Riten
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Posted on 03-11-11 2:18
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Oh, I could not watch without cringing. Ugghhh... Nepal ko police. Such brutality: beating up that poor woman and kicking that man from all around. I hope Nepal police does not represent us Nepalis. What a shame.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5nmshrCR08
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Posted on 03-11-11 8:36
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I don't blame Nepalese police, instead this so called 'Tibetans' need to stop this act in foreign land to put Nepal in difficult situations. If these mo-fo really care about Tibet and want Tibet to be free from China then they need to go back to Tibet and fight the way Tunisians and Egyptian fought for. This A-holes illegal immigrant in Nepal bribe Nepalese authorities to gain citizenship, get aids from western countries on name of refugees and living prosper er life in Nepal better than average Nepalese people.
Nepal need to put them a place like 'Jhapa refugee camp' and we will see how many people come to Nepal for freedom. these people nothing more than economic refugees.
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Riten
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Posted on 03-11-11 8:57
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It just is barbaric of these policemen to be beating up a woman or helpless man like that.
No matter what the politics is, these beatings are wrong. No two way about it. No justification. It's just outright savage and immoral.
If you don't agree, I am sorry to say, you are an ignorant a$$hole.
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Posted on 03-11-11 9:30
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Riten, i bet you're as exactly same as those 'Khate Tibetians' who come to the United State in the name of 'Refugee' and work your azz off 16-18 a day. No wonder you have sympathy for them, I know those Tibetians are not refugee, cause I had lived in 'Boudha' for several years.
And for your information, in terms of beating by police, wouldn't be we nepalese here be safe here in america if American police were allowed to beat 'Kale' shit out of them in jail so they wouldn't even think twice to rob and kill store clerk??
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chaurey
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Posted on 03-11-11 9:37
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This Event is set to take place in the Future, check the date on the video which is 10/03/2011. Thank you time travelling video grapher. we can still prevent this from happening YAY!
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Posted on 03-11-11 9:40
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Wi-fi, Ji i don't know ur speed or how fast you travel, for me its seems u r still using Nepal dial-up.
We are no differnt than those Tibetans, who came to US becuase we were week enough to fight back in home, Nepal. Or at the same time we can argue that we came for better future and easy life (easy or hard we decide). The main thing here is we are not in a position to make who is legal or who is illegal or what does Tibetans does in Nepal.
The main thing here was beating of some helpless and unarmed people, which is in no way a Justifiable ( i don't know if there is such word called justifiable).
by the way, ur spped was a joke, take it as ur friday morning laugh.........
Jai Nepal...
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wi-fi
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Posted on 03-11-11 9:43
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Riten, i bet you're as exactly same as those 'Khate Tibetians' who come to the United State in the name of 'Refugee' and work your azz off 16-18 a day. No wonder you have sympathy for them, I know those Tibetians are not refugee, cause I had lived in 'Boudha' for several years.
And for your information, in terms of beating by police, wouldn't be we nepalese here be safe here in america if American police were allowed to beat 'Kale' shit out of them in jail so they wouldn't even think twice to rob and kill store clerk??
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wi-fi
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Posted on 03-11-11 9:47
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what the hell you talking about the speed and dial up????
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chaurey
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Posted on 03-11-11 9:56
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Wi fi: what makes you say that the tibetan people living in Boudha are not refugees? let's hear your definition of refugee and we can go from there.
Can you explain to me what anything has to do with you living in Boudha got to do with Tibetans not being refugees? I am not sure what you are implying but can you elaborate more on that?
What makes you so sure that by beating a 'kale'l by police would change anything? Has it changed anything in Nepal? Police beat the shit out of people who are in jails yet we still have crime in our society no?
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Posted on 03-11-11 10:05
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guys my point is that.....whether somebody got the right to express or protest in Nepal or not ????..........it's not about what is right or wrong....its about how the police dealt with those unarmed protestors........that is surely not acceptable in a civilized country........enough is enough.........be it a Nepali , or a Tibetan, no body got the right to beat someone like that.....and that too by a police with the tag " Nepal Police ". it's a shame .....Prahari jawaans need to learn some lessons about it........and i am not saying that all are bad......but its for sure that Nepal Police is not handling the protestors humanely.....
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Posted on 03-11-11 10:14
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पुलिसलाइ के निकम्मा भन्ने .. उनीहरु त केवल पाल्तु कुक्कुर हुन्
उनीहरुलाई अर्डर दिने पुलिस हेद र गृह मन्त्रालयका घुसखोर नेता हरु हुन् निकम्मा
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chaurey
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Posted on 03-11-11 10:23
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this brings me to point out another question: How come Nepalese do not show anti-Chinese sentiment when pressured by Chinese Govt to keep these protest at bay?
I was under the impression, i might be wrong but the Chinese govt pressured Nepal govt to control Tibetan freedom protests in Nepal or they were going to intervene if it got out of hand?
Had it been the neighbor from the south doing so; we would have been pretty quick to explode and support the anti-Indian rhetorics. why then are we not doing the same against the chinese?
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Posted on 03-11-11 10:32
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your name dude - "wi-fi". ur thinking travels as the slowest dial-up internet connection.
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kanchu!
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Posted on 03-11-11 11:26
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One China Policy is Nepal's government formal position. After the Ganatantra, antichina activity is soaring, thanks to India/West. This in a long run will not be beneficial to the Nation Nepal.
As for the Human Rights, objective evaluation is essential. Poor country Nepal is housing so many refugees, how come?
If you are refugee you are not supposed to work or to do busines, right? so how many of you really think these refugees at do not have any business or trade? Why US was so eager to give GREEN CARD TO BHUTANESE REFUGEE IN NEPAL ( coz India also wanted the same) and why not to TIBETN REFUGEE! AND if you are so concerned, Why you are so silence about BHUTANESE REFUGEE? Stop you all hypocrites!!
I feel for those, but instead of politicalizing the issue at the behest of west and India, we need to go little deeper and understand the issue. Human Rights! what a joke –who are those who sets parameters for human rights?- it is like “ Tera Khun Khun Mera Khun Pani”?.
Tibeten Rufugees- if you are provided shelter in nepal- abide the law of the land! If not go to Delhi in front of Chinese embassy , do the same thing if you can!
AAFNO DES KO SWOTANTRATA KO LAGI AFNAI THAUMA GAYERA ANDOLAN GARNU ARKA KO DESH MA AYERA HOIN! TIBETEN REFUGEE BHANAUDA HARUKO SOURCE OF INCOME KO BAREMA CHAN BIN HUNA JARURI CHA! NEPAL KO VIRGIN LAND RA DANDAMA RATARAT KASARI MONASTERAY BANDAI CHA?
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Riten
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Posted on 03-11-11 11:31
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Thanks guys.
As I said, forget politics. You might be on the side of Tibetans, you might be on the side of Chinese, you have the right to have your opinion. But that is beside the point here.
If you don't feel an ounce of compassion when you see a woman being beaten up and her hair being violently pulled by bunch of armed men or if you don't feel outraged when an unarmed man gets kicked by circle of booted cops, then I have nothing more to say to you except "I pity you and pray that someday some love and some sympathy will germinate in your heart for fellow beings".
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Posted on 03-11-11 12:06
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It’s not the issue of Tibetan protesting here. Cops are unprofessional in Nepal, period! If you get into the custody for any reason, they will beat you first for no reason even if you’re innocent or guilty. It doesn’t matter to them. One time, I was walking down the street and the cop van pulled by and dragged me in the van. I was in shock. They took me to the police satiation and the inspector slapped me twice without even asking anything. I knew the ASI and asked him what’s going on and he was like, “Oh, sh*t miss identification yaar.” The inspector apologized and even dropped me home. I still hate them for those two slaps.
Junior cops are like slaves to their officers. Some of them even cook, wash clothes, drive, take care of their children (baby sit), buy groceries and do other labor works for their senior supervisors.
Senior officers get trained in the developed countries like UK, US, Europe and so on. They travel all the time. But they don’t imply what they have learned. There are many techniques for crowd control using less force and looking not so bad in front of the media and general people. For example, they don’t have to raise baton from the head above, it can be done by swinging the baton from side by side. I have learned some techniques here and our instructor told us all the time that; safety first, use less force and don’t be inhuman. If you violated these rules and get caught here, you are fked big time.
Both Nepal Police and Nepal Army have to be more professional.
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Posted on 03-11-11 12:11
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@Kanchu: Nepal ko VIRGIN dadha rata raat kasari Monastry bandai cha? and what exactly are you trying to say with that satement? what are you implying? in my opinion that speaks loudly of what ignorance you believe in. Do not forget Nepal comprises of large number of Buddhist population if you do not already know that.
Other than that the issue regarding Bhutanese refugees is another can of worm altogether and in my opinion I do condemn Bhutanese and Indian Govt support in their action against the exiled Nepalese from their Bhutani Homeland.
Tibetan refugees have in most cases abided by Nepalese law. There are few whose actions have caused the laws to break but those examples should not be used to generalize the entire Tibetan refugee population.
Apart from that Tibetans have the right to protest in Nepal against a regime that has annexed their home land and they can do so without turning violent.
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Posted on 03-11-11 1:09
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Before I say any further...I am from Boudha, I have Tibetan relatives, cousins and tons of friends...most of them second, third generation Tibetans born and living in Nepal. I am really against the brutality of the Police but also understand that the Police have a no pass zone where the protesters are not allowed to pass, they can protest everywhere but arent allowed to cross certain areas due to security concerns. These protesters have the most of boudha and Kathmandu to demonstrate BUT they however always choose to make a point by crossing the police safety zone because they know that the police will act against them and violently stop them from advancing. Living in boudha I know that the Tibetans organizers direct the so called protesters to clash with the police so the international media and local will see how bad their life in Nepal is ......Its a political move from the Tibetan side to clash with the police.........It shows to china that our government is stopping them but to the rest of the world we become villains further strengthens the Free Tibet case. So I am neutral here.......They get what they ask.......without te police beating them, their free Tibet case wouldnt be that strong...so this is all planned guys....
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kanchu!
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Posted on 03-11-11 2:54
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@ chaure- do not generalize nepalese buddhist religiion- understand there are branches, and different branches practiced geographically different places. Surprisingly, over last few years, the monasteries are being built in the places where such practices of building " lofty" monastery structures have never been culturally in practice, NEVER EXISTED! it is more than a religion- it shows your ignorance not mine!
@ terobaje you are right it is more a politics-not to mention Mr. Dalai Lama is stepping down from the position of TIBETEN leader.
While BHUTANESE refugees are living miserly in a SLUM like condition- how come TIBETEN refugees are riding PAZEROS? SUKILA MUKILA TIBETEN REFUGEE dekhda achhama lagcha. A simple nepal man asks a question
PLUS stop politicalizing Boudhha Stupa- yo timra bauko birta hoina, Lichhavi kal ma banako Nepal ko dharohar ho!
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Posted on 03-11-11 3:09
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do not generalize nepalese buddhist religiion- understand there are branches, and different branches practiced geographically different places. Surprisingly, over last few years, the monasteries are being built in the places where such practices of building " lofty" monastery structures have never been culturally in practice, NEVER EXISTED! it is more than a religion- it shows your ignorance not mine! understand there are branches, and different branches practiced geographically different place
ok I am totally lost as to what this person just said.....what is the point here? I thought we were talking about Buddhism in general and not NEPALESE or TIBETAN buddhism (if such classification even exists, nepali and tibetan, is beyond me) there are different branches what what? where have these monastries start poping up? what was supposed to have happened and what happened as far as monastries being built is in question??err i am kind of lost here, what exactly do you mean lofty? and what was the cultural norm? if you are trying to imply that better looking monastries are being built then so what? do you not see the same with hindu temples or christian churches? sorry i totally don't see what you are yapping about.
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kanchu!
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Posted on 03-11-11 4:02
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Educate yourself-Chaure,
Google- Theravada Buddhism, Vajrayana Buddhism, Mahayana Buddhism, Hinayana -Understand which are practiced where and by which ethnic tribes/country. about your where where .....LOL EDUCATE YOURSELF MORE!
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