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rsubedi
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Posted on 11-30-05 7:55
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Posted on 11-30-05 9:02
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This is good news; however, If the poster above (rsubedi) is the same person who collected the news piece for Radio Dovan (Ramhari Subedi), please be advised that appropriate mention of the source is needed when copying-n-pasting news from other sources. The piece in Radio Dovan's website is an EXACT copy of the news clip from Times of India's November 30th edition.
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shirish
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Posted on 11-30-05 9:33
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Poonte Good Point. All of the news pieces say " News Collection By Ramhari Subedi". However, it does not say by Ramhari Subedi. may be he is not a journalist.
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rsubedi
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Posted on 11-30-05 9:35
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Thats how it goes. As long as you inform people with good news. Who cares about finding this and that. Just read the news and know.
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Posted on 11-30-05 9:38
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Mr. Subedi, There are ceratin laws while dissementing news that needs to be followed. I agree with above 2 gentlemen over this. There should not be any copyright violations. My 2 cents Peace out
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rsubedi
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Posted on 11-30-05 9:43
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Dude, If you look some news you can see the exact same things over and over with different medias and sources. You got to look those things before you discuss/argue here. We dont get paid by posting the news. This is just a volunteer service utilizating spare time You can not put tooo much efforts being as a volunteer.
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highfly
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Posted on 11-30-05 9:49
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Thanx for clarifying it. I did not mean to offend you. Just thought making aware of ceratin laws in dissementation of information Anyways Kudos to your team. Just be careful of these laws. peace out
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shirish
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Posted on 11-30-05 9:49
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Ram Hari ji I think you should take Anil's point as an eye opener to you on Journalistic Ethics and not confront the way you just did. Not getting paid does not mean that you take the credit on some body else's work.
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shirish
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Posted on 11-30-05 9:55
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Ram Hari jee, This is what it says at the bottom of TOI page Copyright ? 2005 Times Internet Limited. All rights reserved. For reprint rights: Times Syndication Service
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rsubedi
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Posted on 11-30-05 9:58
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Sirish ji, I completely understand. Have you ever noticed what Kantipur does? They do copy and paste from the different resources, I have seen this many many times. By profession I am not a journalist means I can not write any news and post, I am just trying to post the news out there for people who do not know yet.
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shirish
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Posted on 11-30-05 10:03
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R Subedi wrote: I completely understand. I know you dont. R Subedi wrote: Have you ever noticed what Kantipur does? They do copy and paste from the different resources, I have seen this many many times. Thay can do as long as they have contracts. Like Sagarmatha FM re- broadcasting BBC. Suppose they violated the law re ani "goo" khayo bhandai ma tapaile ni khane?
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Posted on 11-30-05 10:12
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Sirish Ji, We all have Nepali Para, whatever you do, wherever you go. The way I look at it, was an unrelevent complain. Sometimes people do not know what they are getting out of it but they want to find out where they can find the mistake, only mistake.
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Posted on 11-30-05 10:25
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r subedi At least you conceded that it was a mistake. You could have simply said, OK guys I goofed and the matter would have died. Instead you chose to retaliate in a bad way. What you did is simply an act of 'plagiarism' !
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Posted on 11-30-05 10:30
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Ram hari Jee, but some times it can also keep you out of trouble Yes some of these posters went little further. But why don't you accept it? They are not saying something that is wrong. I know you brought the news here..thats good. But you never know what happens in the name of laws. I think they were just trying to be nice to you. Tara tapai chai tyesari janginu bhayena.
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Posted on 11-30-05 10:33
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Ramhari-jee, You have erred. Bravely acknowledge the fault and move on with a determination not to err again, you have not. Instead, you try to justify your error in whatever silly ways you can, which only make you look sillier. Please understand the concept of "constructive criticism" if you'd like to have professionalism reflected on your work, be it volunteer-based or otherwise. Simply adding a line "The following news is from TOI...(and providing the link)" would have sufficed to avoid criticism. This would not have taken more than 10 seconds of your volunteer time. Being open to constructive criticism and the possessing the ability to accomodate improvements -- rather than justifying your mistakes at any cost -- would only do good towards upholding your and your organization's (Radio Dovan) professionalism and integrity. Other than that, yes, I do commend your efforts to diseminate news.
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Posted on 11-30-05 10:35
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Sirish ji, Everybody makes mistake. I do understand the situation...this was an important news for the people, I saw so many people logged onto our web site and read that news. If I did not discuss here, I would not get those traffic. I wanted them to to know this news...some how and some way. At least I gave somethig to the viewers. Sorry guys and thanks for this wonderful discussions. Lets do it !! Lets make it happen again !! Lets wash your brain!!
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Posted on 11-30-05 10:48
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I don't see what kind of "benefit" rsubedi gets from printing news as his own on his website. He seem genuinly wanting to give news to people. I don't think anyone is doubting that these news may be of his own writing. We Nepali have tendency of talking bad about someone when he/she tries to do something new. We ourself can't even think of doing so ourselves... Nepal ani kina bikash hunchha.
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Posted on 11-30-05 10:56
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Here comes another wisecrack. People are just trying to point out legal implications. Thats it. We all are Nepalis. When the things are not legal, how come there is the issue of thats the Nepalis tendency. So get this clear Mr/Ms whoareyou. peace out
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Posted on 11-30-05 11:08
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Highfly, Now you are showing up your attitude here. You also do need to notice on any internet sites, lots of people copywriting datas, news, views and posting on other places. Before you talk, you shold do some more research first. Keep on thing on mind that Internet service is wide open service and people do try to get benifits out of it. You have to know all these things before you discuss on any of these issues.
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Posted on 11-30-05 11:21
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Ok here is the thing, I really hate (this is the strong word, I know) when people blames Nepalis as a whole. I really mean it when I say you are doing a good job. But there are some legal implications as your website is based on US. Trust me on that. Thats what I was pointing out. Others Anil and Shirsih mentioned about journalistic ethics. I do not think I raised any illegitimate issues. Nope. personally, I really do not accept when people just blame Nepalis culture and attitude for every thing thats going wrong. "We Nepali have tendency of talking bad about someone when he/she tries to do something new. We ourself can't even think of doing so ourselves... Nepal ani kina bikash hunchha. " whoareyou Look at this statement. As a Nepali, its over me too. So, do not generalize. My comment was solely for whoareyou and not to your team and what your team is doing. peace out
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