One of the main tussle between the late King Birendra and Indian Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi were related to the water projects in Nepal.

India demanded that Indian companies given the first priority to any hydro and electricity related projects in Nepal but the then Govt refused to do so. Now after the LOKTANTRA, India holds keys on every political party to implement its interest and do as it wishes. 

It is believed that in a decade, India will face severe water and power crisis/shortage and one of the ways to solve problem are utilization of Nepalese land and supply water and electricity to India.

Don't believe me....Keep watching !!

 

GMR lands 300 MW Upper Karnali

BY BIKASH SANGRAULA

This is true.. I agree with you..

Nepal is not a country any more cause this Nepal Govt. is established by India.So ,i don't think we have any rights to complain.
Didn't Nepalese know this ? I hear politicians saying Nepalese are smart ..Are they really?
Just look at the other video how new generation nepalese plan to make new Nepal.
- dumping trash on streets..
Is there any hope now?????

No hope what so ever.......

"So Nepal should not let India to invest on Nepal.  Nepal should not let India benefited from Nepalese water. We don't care how poor our country is, and we don't care how badly we need electricity but we should not let India to invest on water related projects in Nepal because we hate Indians and we think they suck our blood.

Let Nepalese river flow underutilized but don't let India to invest on Nepal because we hate them and we have stereotype that they suck our blood.":- My understanding from Shrish comments .

PresidentofNepal

I have no problem India investing in Nepalese hydro and power projects but Indians have manipulated Nepalese politicians in such a way that there will be no other investors in Nepal's hydroelectricity projects apart from Indian companies. This will mostly benefit the Indians than Nepalese.

I hope I am wrong....

As far as i know they awarded this project to dhoti company without bidding it.. So it is a dhotis monopoly game because our so called neta's are under their RAW agent, those MF neta's do not have F guts to stand and argue with them. Sad for our motherlad. Bichara mero dharti aama sabaile chusera sakaune bhaye..

The cabinet set 12 percent free energy from the Upper Karnali and 21.9 percent (88 MW) free energy from the 402 MW Arun III as base benefits for Nepal.

WHY? 12% not 21.9%
Upper Karnali as well as Arun III are being developed to export power to India.

Hey why not a project for Nepal not to export to India.If Indians can pay so Nepalese can.Nepalese will pay for electricity or may be why not Nepal sell energy to India??

Presidentofnepal

REMINDER for you - the same ARUN III was supposed to be financed by the World Bank, a decade ago.

Now being financed by the India's Satlaj Jal Bidyut Nigam.

NEXT BHUTAN = NEPAL

Guys, 10 years have passed since World Bank withdrew from Arun III project. The result is that Nepal is still struggling to cope up with increasing electricity demand. Lets assume Nepal rolls back its decision from awarding this project to Indian company. Who will come forward to build this project ? how long nepal has to wait for someone to come forward?  Does Nepal have enough money to build by its own ? Don't you think other international companies don't have their own vested interest ?  

At least from this project nepal is getting 12% free energy and 27% free share and other benefits.

Do you guys really think that Chinese or american company or say Nepalese comapany would have given better deal than this ?  Have you aleardy forgotten Khimti prject , Mid marsayngdi project ??? 

EXT BHUTAN = NEPAL

Bhutan

GDP (PPP)		2007 estimate
-	Total	$4.39 billion (160th)
-	Per capita	$5,477 (117th)

Nepal :

GDP (PPP)		2006 estimate
-	Total	$41.18 billion (87th)
-	Per capita	$1,500 (164rd)

Source :- Wikipedia

I am happy if Nepal becomes another Bhutan. At least my countryman will not have to live in poverty.

I don't understand the intent of Harka Bahadur, but we should really try to make Nepal another Bhutan. If India and China have enough capital to invest, we should not really go far away to find investors in order to harness the hydropower for the development of Nepal. Burnt tires in the streets can give no more power. No matter how loudly and strongly we chant slogans in the streets, we have problem of food, clothes and shelter. This is the hard reality. If we really want to come out of the poverty loop, we have to do something beyond our traditional thougthts.

India has financed Chunkha Hydropower (336MW) & Tala Hydropwer (~1020 MW) in Bhutan. Similarly, Mangdechhu Hydropower ~ 360 MW (feasibility study by Norway), Panasangchhu Hydrower ~ 900 MW (feasibility study by Japan) are on the way.  Per capita income of Bhutan is around ~$ 875 (even higher than India) via-a-vis ~$300  of Nepal. There is no one below poverty line (compared to 42%) as per world bank report .

Let's not talk about politics, disgusting monarchist, as we had before.

 

 

Why do we have to depend on other people, to build those power plants? as far as i know, i do not have the statistics, there are many small hydro power project being run by our own Nepali experts. We do have the brain, technical power and investor to do the job, we do not have to depend on other. There are lots of big company's in Nepal who can do the job given to them. Let us try ourself. We can always buy technology from other people. Lot of people have gone to foreign soil to study, work in hydropower projects. We can bring to our country to do the job, we might as well use their job experience and brain.

Here i am not trying to be superior to others. We are too much dependent on others. Lots of hydropower work undertaken by Nepali experts are running so nice in Nepal. Well by saying next Bhutan= Nepal, i am not against the idea of other people coming to Nepal and doing job for us. Look at the Norweigein and Italians job, after completion they have sold power to India. Look at the UN looting our country. 

Foreign investor sabai usttai hun no matter they are chinese, norwaygian, italian, indian. Let us give a try to develop our country by our own experts. 

Ali dherai wahiyaat khokiyoki k ho..

Why do we have to depend on other people, to build those power plants? as far as i know, i do not have the statistics, there are many small hydro power project being run by our own Nepali experts. We do have the brain, technical power and investor to do the job, we do not have to depend on other. There are lots of big company's in Nepal who can do the job given to them. Let us try ourself. We can always buy technology from other people. Lot of people have gone to foreign soil to study, work in hydropower projects. We can bring to our country to do the job, we might as well use their job experience and brain.

Here i am not trying to be superior to others. We are too much dependent on others. Lots of hydropower work undertaken by Nepali experts are running so nice in Nepal. Well by saying next Bhutan= Nepal, i am not against the idea of other people coming to Nepal and doing job for us. Look at the Norweigein and Italians job, after completion they have sold power to India. Look at the UN looting our country. 

Foreign investor sabai usttai hun no matter they are chinese, norwaygian, italian, indian. Let us give a try to develop our country by our own experts. 

Ali dherai wahiyaat khokiyoki k ho..

Why do we have to depend on other people, to build those power plants? as far as i know, i do not have the statistics, there are many small hydro power project being run by our own Nepali experts. We do have the brain, technical power and investor to do the job, we do not have to depend on other. There are lots of big company's in Nepal who can do the job given to them. Let us try ourself. We can always buy technology from other people. Lot of people have gone to foreign soil to study, work in hydropower projects. We can bring to our country to do the job, we might as well use their job experience and brain.

Here i am not trying to be superior to others. We are too much dependent on others. Lots of hydropower work undertaken by Nepali experts are running so nice in Nepal. Well by saying next Bhutan= Nepal, i am not against the idea of other people coming to Nepal and doing job for us. Look at the Norweigein and Italians job, after completion they have sold power to India. Look at the UN looting our country. 

Foreign investor sabai usttai hun no matter they are chinese, norwaygian, italian, indian. Let us give a try to develop our country by our own experts. 

Ali dherai wahiyaat khokiyoki k ho..

There are few concerns on this deal:

1. CopiCAT and like him others: Raising issues against a project, you should not try to stamp them as Royalists, and you don't need to support this deal just because you are a die hard Republican. You are obsessed with Republican Agenda.

2. This is a transition time. Interim government does not have any legitimate mandate to offer such a national interest project in this crucial period.

3. Did you technical and legal biz people in Nepal read the contract carefully? Remember how the Marsyngdi Project screwed up Nepal government for each blackout day in Nepal as compensation to them. How many corporate lawyers do we have? Did our lawyers checked each wording? So that we can stand by with contract on our side, or it is crafted in such a way that by the end of construction, Nepalis have to pay the compensation more than the free power you will get in next 100 years of project life time.

4. What happens if the dam breaks in the event of Earthquake, and down stream side people die ? Both Nepalis and Indians?

5. In the break of the power for some reason, who pays compensation to the industries whose productions are influenced by such power breakage?

6. What are conditions for contract cancellations or transferring of the contract to second party, in case the current contractor fails to perform on time? or it passes through financial troubles as it happened in Enron.

7. After the end of contract period, will the project belong to Nepal, or it will be dismantled and left as it is now?

Thanks.

GP

 

removed.

it's so irony and hypocracy to read this thread, while the 2 othe thread right above this are:

http://www.sajha.com/sajha/html/openThread.cfm?forum=2&threadid=55433

http://www.sajha.com/sajha/html/openThread.cfm?forum=2&threadid=55477

Stop the drama. Before you plan TOO big, start righ here with something very small. Discourage Indian entertainment, sports and culture to rule over us. Then when those things are resolved, we can go further.

Don't tell me"OH! it's just sports. It's just music. It's just Movie....No boundaries....blah blah  ....BS". We're slave to Indians. Chage your lifestyle and your family before you look out of your window to look at others.

Few Clippings from here and there...[I'm not against the Direct Foreign Investment....but against any UNFAIR and UNEQUAL TRADE AGREEMENTS].

1.Whoever speaks of economic union speaks of political union. The nation that buys, commands; the nation that sells, serves. Commerce must be balanced to assure freedom. A nation that wants to die sells to one nation only, and a nation that would be saved sells to more than one. The excessive influence of one country over another's commerce becomes political influence. Politics is the work of men who surrender their feelings to an interest. When a strong nation supplies another with food, she requires that the recipient serve her.When a strong nation wants to engage another in battle, she forces those who have need of her to become her allies and to serve her. A nation that wants to be free must be free in matters of trade. It must distribute its trade among nations that are equally strong.

2.India obtains raw materials such as timber from Nepal, along with massive amounts of cheap hydroelectric power. In 1996, the Mahakali Treaty basically established India’s right to steal Nepal’s water. While Nepal is one of the poorest countries in the world, its mountains and rivers make it one of the richest in water resources – third in the world after Brazil and China. Nepal has as much capacity to generate hydroelectricity as the US, Mexico, and Canada combined. But unequal treaties force Nepal to sell much of its water to India at give-away prices. Meanwhile, 40 percent of the rural population in Nepal lacks regular supplies of potable water and only about 10
percent of the country have access to electric power.

3. India dominates the economic life of the country – plundering Nepal’s natural resources, enforcing unequal trade agreements, and exploiting the Nepalese peasants who cross the border looking for work.


1--> Jose Marti
3&2-->Dispatches from the People's War in Nepal (by Li Onesto)

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