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elusivecat
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Posted on 02-09-08 1:52
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Guys, I have been watching gazadi and samsara are having discussion about the ongoing political condition of Nepal?What do u think 'Who is making some points?'
Gazadi:
Dude,
Now its his time,so he is talking watever he wants.That may be true and may not be.Wat ever u guys say, he has support from India or he is trying to be dictator like in former USSR,N.Korea......he will not turn his way.One thing I wanna comment about the ongoing discussion in Sajha, these guys(Maoist) were against the king and will be.So,I don't think that statement he made was any surprise. These kinds of comments have been coming and will continue until we got the results from constitutional assembly.
Another thing I wanna comment, I don't know wat u guys will call me ,a pro-maoist or pro-communist or pro-dictatorship but I don't really care.I will jot down some of the perspective. One thing we all need to understand is that if there was no any involvement of Maoist in Nepali political main stream, I will bet we would have never seen the change.King Gyanendra wouldn't have withdrawn his move.The movement which reached its destination was a huge success with Maoist involvement.At that time I was in Nepal and I went to bunch of rallies and protest mass.I never saw a single leader participating,even we didn't know about the where abouts of most political leaders.Don't be in dark that thousands of people in Pokhara,Chitwan,Biratnagar,Birgunj,Palpa,Janakpur or in other parts of Nepal came out because they love the political parties.If u think it to be a reality, thats bullshit.They were expecting sth from Maoist.
I would rather see him as a leader of Nepal than Girija,MAKUNE and other ass holes.
Samsara:
Gazadi, you're smoking too much of that weed again, damn pothead?? You want this guy to be the next leader of Nepal?? What are you damn moron. This fugger was singlehandedly responsible for the regression that has been prevalent for the last 10 years...Ain't no ifs and buts about it. What about the destruction of public infrastructure (whcih solidly hit the lil buget we as a nation had), the closure of educational establishments (depriving kids and college students alike of their fair share of developmental and field knowledge), the rampant kidnappings, the 13K+ killed and the 10s of thousands unaccounted for? What about the looting of banks, the destruction of civil structure, both economic and social in the rural areas (infact all areas outside Ktm), hundreds of thousands of villagers displaced, thousands of kids recruited for an ideology that is nothing but a damn "ideology" only and also what about the Maoists making their cadres stay at the houses in Ktm without the owner's consent (the consent was there but using threat and other similar measures)? And today, the YCL gundas everywhere extorting and calling themselves as self proclaimed parallel police force...WTF?? And yeah, you think we'd fall for the trap of the communist's ideologies? Grow up fugger! This theory works only in papaer and nowhere in real life has it ever worked (tell me China and you'd get whipped so hard by the man Samsara himself...China is a paper communist. Those damn fools are communists in face and name with a burgeoning capitalistic economy fueling their hunger for more wealth)/
Anyone but Prachanday should be our motive! You said you saw no development until the Maos joined the mainstream parties? Ask why? Coz these fuggers were the ones hindering it at every step. If there had been no Maoists, Nepal would've been a much different nation. Much more prosperous than it has been for the past 10 years!!
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Posted on 02-09-08 1:55
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Gazadi:
no_quiero,samsara Its true that lot of people were killed during the insurgency but all were not killed by Maoist alone.More than half is killed by govt.The change u r seeing today in Nepal was possible after that.If u look the history of any country in the world,these kinds of things happen.I am not endorsing the fact that the killing of innocent people is good but that was an event during the process.You can flash back to the revolution of 1990.Many people were killed during the protest and sth was changed in the country as per the leaders. I don't know what u guys think and how u take the achievement of 1990.Many innocent people were killed at that time and many sacrified their life leaving their wife widow,children with a dark future and look what those leaders did with the authority.They built the future of their near and dear ones and grabbed all the money.Take for an instance the condition of NOC and other public offices.I am fed up with these so called democratic parties.You might be related to some of those ass holes and don't try to accept the truth.I have seen the disparity they have created.You know what I would rather accept King Gyanendra as a supremo of Nepal than these corrupted,wicked leaders. Samsara, "If there had been no Maoists, Nepal would've been a much different nation", how come dude?One thing about u, how long have u been in US dude?I am discussing my thoughts in Sajha,so better dare to mind ur language...moron, fuggers, these are not the words for me.Jot down what u think, u also show the same character as those fool leaders , man.Try to convince others with ur reason.
Gazadi:
U pointed out a good reason dude.We all know they did all those things which should have never happened and now they are claiming their victories.It was an insurgency and the two parties did so wicked things that even they never care about the basic human rights.How did maoist came to this point and why they lift the weapons?It's an easy answer.They broke from a small party,janamorcha in 2051 and the election was about to come.There was no way to even win a single electorate zone because they were even a fraction of a small party which got just 11 seats on the election of 2048.So,they endorsed the way to boycott the election and lift arms.No body ever dare to care that small fraction until they made significant attacks.If u remember those days how the leaders of N.C used to make comments.Deuba once told he can grab Maoist from the nook and cranny of every caves and forest of Dolpa,Rukum,Rolpa. These leaders just added oil on the flame.They never even thought about the consequences and what might its impact be.So, maoist used the poor,dalit people as a tool. Its over now and I know the result never justifies the means but we don't have any other options right now.I have seen lot of guys discussing about Prachanda,Baburam....but no one has really said a word about who might be the effective leader of Nepal next.Why r Baburam and Prachandra discussed so much?It makes us think again.Girija is not a good leader but he is the only legend in nepali politics who can get support from international arena. So,guys while discussing scribble sth , if u don't wanna c Prachanda or Baburam as a supremo, who might u think can run effectively? Lets make a wise discussion and learn sth from others.I regularly write on sajha and u know wat,I don't people making comments.They never appreciate other reasons.Every body has their own perspective and judgements, so we r different from each other.If we all have the same preferences and choice,think wat would happen?
Samsara:
Gazadi, too much weed in your brain got you hallucinating son!! You bring the revolution of 1990 and compare it with the Maoists?? WTF? Its like you're bringing about a discussion of the Saints when I talk about Adolf Hitler and his other anti-christ likes. Listen foolio, in 1990, a mere 14 people died in the revolution...In the Maoists revolution 13,000+ were killed and 10,000+ are unaccounted for. How on earth can both phenomenons be compared?? And were there lootings, kidnappings, bank robbings, destruction of public infrastructure, extortions, etc. back in 1990? Damn, where does your reasoning even stem outta? Go back to smoking more of that stuff rather than come up here wanting to be some damn wisecrack!
Also, you ask me why I say, "If there had been no Maoists, Nepal would've been a much different nation"? Did you even read my post before blabbering such an ignorant statement? Damn, the answer was right in the post! Use that brains for comprehending sometimes, would ya? could ya? or should ya? I've put the reasons down again (cut and paste). Just read it this time!! BTW, Just the fact that you support Prachanday and his commies, it shows how much of a real-world comprehending ability you possess! Saddam, Stalin, Hitler, Napoleon and the Ayotollahs were all great charasmatic leaders...But also the most evil! As far as I see Prachanday is just another wannabe Stalin and its about time his wings got clipped!!
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Posted on 02-09-08 1:56
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Gazadi:
Samsara, Forget abut me,man.Let my brain be spoiled or hallucinated by weeds,none of ur business.I love the way I am.The revolution maoist carried out was not a child play.It was a peroid of insurgency and they have lifted weapons.So,its not a surprise to know the killings of people.Again,I wanna make clear I am not neglecting the killings of people and trying to justify that.Why the heck r u always mentioning that maoist killed 13+ k people?Government killed more than maoist did. You talk about the lootings of bank.What about the money looted by N.C ministers including Girija?Why don't u talk about that.Yeah,its true maoist looted bank,vandalised public properties but they had a purpose and all they did was to achieve their goal.But those ass holes of N.C looted for themselves.Maoist looted banks but Prachanda,baburam didn't use that money for their personal purposes.They used to run the party and look, where are they now?
Samsara, wake up!!maoist got everthing they wanted.They got almost everything they fought for.Whose agenda was to abolish monarchy,constitutional assembly?Girija still is not happy.He doesnot want to uproot the monarchy.He was the prime minister who took coins from the Gyanendra even though he knew Birendra was killed by Gyanendra.Who are you talking about Samsara?A person who kills his own family just for a mere position or a person who appoints his children minister even though they got nothing,who trades the natural resources of own country with foreign countries, makes money in every kind of so called developmental things,loves chair more than his life.Sorry dude, I am not ready to accept these leeches a leader.Maoist at least did sth.Its not a fun to be underground and fight for more than 10 yrs.These so called leaders even couldnot spend 2 yrs if they are not in government.
Who haven't done violence,tell me?N.C or U.M.L or sb else.Do u remember how they torched the vehicles and vandalised govt. vehicles running on the streets.I agree there is a huge difference in the violence between those parties and Maoist.U know why?Becoz those parties wanted to change the govt. but maoist were determined to change the whole system in country.If u r sensible enough, think how much work u need to put on to change whole country in compared to change a leadership in Singha durbar.Actually,these democratic parties never did anything for people.what they did was to get back in government.
So, now the scenario is different and YES WE CAN CHANGE,YES WE CAN CHANGE,YES WE CAN CHANGE Nepal. And the changing force is Maoist.Take my words, if maoist fail to do sth this time there will be a rejuvenation of another armed force(might be a fraction of those or sb else).
Time is dynamic and it has been changed.Change urself and come forward.Abandon the thoughts u used to have and come up with a new one coz its time for a change and maoist can do it nobody else.
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Posted on 02-09-08 1:58
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For me Gazadi makes some sense. Samsara tries to be offensive rather than putting his reasons.He is reapting the same stuffs again and again.Though i don't take weeds, I would go for Gazadi.
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Posted on 02-09-08 3:42
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Samsara is well known in sajha for being a yappin' biatch rather than a reasoning machine. Too much subway ride in NYC wid 'em dollar battery amigoz (just trynna be sarcastic although I would be called foolio, ignoramus, red neck worshipper, etc. for this).
Even though I don't agree with few things Gazadi has said, I go for Gazadi too. Samsara is just one of 'em cry babies who thinks he can win, by hook or by crook. Use of offensive language is his only weapon which also seem to be running outta ammunition since there are others who can play the same card.
For me, I don't know either Maoists or Political parties or the King is good. I don't prefer any of 'em. Maoists have too bad history in terms of violence (still doin' it), King is already gone and should never come back, and political parties: there should be some young brains who could think about making changes. I'm damn tired of same ol' faces all the time. We need change: may be younger generation of leaders.
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Posted on 02-09-08 3:50
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commentator has done right comentry..n samsra callinga other peter repeater parrot n all has no words other than foolio..fag..etc.etc.. since he is called by such name in the streets of ny whre he dwells to eat shit ... whateever reason he puts forward is all understood by him .. he does not want to see anyother view point.. yah like said above cry baby........ now i know he will come crying in this thread sat=ying how much i love to hit ur head agianst the rcok,, but her is forgetting how much wire is being shoved into ho azz
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Posted on 02-09-08 4:02
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SAMSARA S=SOIN A= ASS M=Mofu--cka S= SUkar A= Anus R= Ra---di (if female) A= accidental biproduct...
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Posted on 02-09-08 5:55
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gazzadi makes some sense..
samsara.. is a cry baby... like some other ppl said...
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jimnbro
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Posted on 02-09-08 8:10
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gazadi is best samsara i don't know..???
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elusivecat
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Posted on 02-09-08 9:26
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We haven't heard anything from Samsara, where the heck is he?
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Posted on 02-09-08 10:33
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Posted on 02-09-08 11:40
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