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Captain Haddock
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Posted on 02-20-08 11:23
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The picture worth a thousand words:
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Quagmire
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Posted on 02-20-08 12:16
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I was watching CNN last night and one of the analyst was saying that she should definitely look to replace her speech writer more than anybody else. She has to win both Texas and Ohio to stay in contention but I doubt it that she will be able to stop the Obama Surge! Obama for change, Obama for Equality, Obama for President!
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bikash kc
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Posted on 02-20-08 1:20
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video talks itself mr. cuptan
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bikash kc
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Posted on 02-20-08 1:23
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bikash kc
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Posted on 02-20-08 1:24
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bikash kc
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Posted on 02-20-08 1:24
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Captain Haddock
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Posted on 02-20-08 1:57
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Bikash KC - That's called clutching straws. In case you missed the news cycle, it didn't work in WI and I doubt it will work elsewhere. Plus, he has come up with examples of where she has lifted his words and there are examples out there of where she lifter her husband's words. The whole argument is so bogus that it makes Hillary and all those who use it look pretty desperate if not outright stupid.
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Posted on 02-20-08 2:01
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Captain Haddock
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Posted on 02-20-08 2:07
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Yeah, it is unlikely to stick. And Deval was quoting King and others for crying out loud. What's next - the King family accusing Deval of stealing King's lines ?
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bikash kc
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Posted on 02-20-08 2:38
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mr. cuptan plz. remember the race is still far from over
ohio is no wisconsin
i ask you onething, plz. tell me if you remmeber what's the one accomplishment he did as a senator i?
plz. dont search on internet or anything
talk straight out of ur head
for clinton,even opponent like you can count many achievements
like mccain said other day its not about empty rhetoric of hope but abt. the experience and who is the better commander-in-chief on day 1?
clintion is a come-back kid and i am sure she will bounce back and prevail,not perish
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Captain Haddock
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Posted on 02-20-08 2:56
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Oh come on, dont give me that cable-news clap trap.He has passed ethic reforms, opposed Bush tax cuts, voted a certain way on Iraq etc but given that he's been there for just two years, he doesn't have much of a legislative record to run on. Now if I really did look up the internet, I could prolly come up with a list. But I have no problems with his meagre legislative record. He isn't running on his legislative record alone. I think that's a strength in many ways. He is running on his plans for the future, his ability to reach out to all sections of society and his message of bringing a different tone to politics. You want ten point plans? Check out his website.
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Captain Haddock
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Posted on 02-20-08 3:01
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Obama opens 14 point lead - certainly not good news for Clinton. Is closing the gap in TX and OH and can still stay in the race without winning either.
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Posted on 02-20-08 3:16
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Although I like Hillary better than Obama, I think he is now in total control of this democratic primary. But with too much media love, the bar is set very high for him, if he is elected as President. He has given a lot of feel good speech and all of those will be pretty hard to achieve. Let see how this thing will go and how he will he defends the 527 commercials from republicans. His numbers are pretty good against McCain but I won’t be surprise if polls start favoring McCain pretty soon.
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Captain Haddock
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Posted on 02-20-08 3:30
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Yes, it's going to be interesting how the general election campaign turns out. We are on unchartered territory if it is McCain vs Obama because both parties will have selected someone with decent cross-over appeal. I think we might potentially see the red-state blue-state dichotomy turned on its head
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Posted on 02-20-08 3:39
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Bikas,
You're asking to talk straight from head, you don't seem to have one. If you talk or think from your head, at least at this point, you will not support Hillary. She is a cry baby. She is not a come back kid. She has lost the legitimitacy to be in race. She will not win any of the remaining states. Her run is now like of Rudy who waited for Florida to quit the following day.
Dude use some common sense when you talk in a forum. I urge you talk a sense if you want to make a point. I have been a very big fan of Barack since the year I know him in 2003. That is when I came to the US in Chicago.
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Posted on 02-20-08 4:11
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If you want to talk about legislative records, then we can put both Obama's and Clinton's accomplishments on a table and see side by side. His time in Illinois as a state senator does count, when talking about legislative experience; her time as the first lady of Arkansas or the US does not (take out 16 years from her 35+ years of experience). That's not the argument that Clinton will win. Just because one of your supporters wasn't well prepared does not mean that Obama doesn't have any accomplishments. Get over it! The Clinton camp is getting pretty desperate now.
I don't understand what people are saying here about "feel-good-speeches" of Obama. Obviously many people love listening to him!! He hasn't promised people that he will make everyone rich or he will have free healthcare for all. He is as realiistic as he can be while at the same time inspiring people to sacrifice. On the other hand, Clinton thinks that she will have healthcare to ALL, which is a promise that will be mighty difficult to put into a reality.
I don't think there is much difference between the two when it comes to immigration. And you guys are talking as if the final immigration bill that comes out of the congress will be verbatim of the President's plan!! Talk abou the reduction of number of H1 visa holders, it was during Bill's presidency that they reduced the number of H1-B visas.
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Posted on 02-20-08 4:28
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For the 10th time for god's sake.. Hillary is not Bill.. Bill used to be the come back kid for what I think was long long time ago.. I have lost respect for both of them. You can't compromise your integrity to get elected for the position which stands on the pedestal of integrity.. No never!!
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Posted on 02-20-08 5:11
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One thing about Barrack, and most Americans see in him as well, is in the lines of the young Senator from Massachussets who became the lone voice of change in the country, running against cynicism, running against the secrecy of the system and his lone fight against democratic principles and norms. It was more than 45 years ago that JFK got elected and I can tell with full certainty that Senator Obama is no Jack Kennedy.
Agreed that he has the same oratory skill as JFK, but JFK was already 11 years as a Congressman and 2 years as a Senator. He was a seasoned politician before he threw his hat in the ring.
People donot need false hopes and empty rhetorics. Yes, people are hungy for change, but change what? What exactly is the message? People have already had enough hope, promises of hope and empty rhetorics. He needs to be much more specific than that to win the general election and he has a long way to go before he can come anywhere close to JFK.
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Posted on 02-20-08 5:25
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Jack?? Who is Jack? ha ha what a hipocrisy.
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nell
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Posted on 02-20-08 5:35
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Oh! I thought his name was Jack Kennedy? Isn't it? I guess I am a hypocrite!! Sorry man!! ;-)
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