अमेरिका र पश्चिमी देशरुमा बसेर स्वोतात्नात्रता, कानुनी राज्य को फाइदा र पुन्जिबदी सैली को जिवान्सैली को अधिकतम फाइदा उठाउने ले नेपाल मा भने माओबादी र प्रचण्डको तानासाही संस्कार को अन्ध भक्ति गर्ने हे पाखण्डी लाल्बुज्जकड़ हो तिमीहरु कति खत्तम चौभंने कुरा तिमीहरुले कहिले विचार गरका छौ?

औनोस मित्र यस्ता कुसोच भएका हरुको कताक्छे  गरौँ.

Shantipriya,

If a country like USA supports dictators Like Mussaraf, Mubarak and Saddam for decades why can't an ordinary people talk about people who they like. I am not labeling myself as pro prachanda but remember the western countries are about liberties and individual right. One is free to talk or like the ideas of any other individual.

Here I am not talking on the  context of GLOBAL POLITCAL scenario, nor I do think western country is epitome of " Democracy and Civil liberty". I am exactly talking about ordinary people- who at one hand love to enjoy everything-products of " western capitalist system" and advocate " totalitarianism"/ Maoism-Prachanda N company,  when it comes to Nepal.  I am not saying they can't excercise free speech. I am talking about "double standard and sheer hypocrisy" of those people.

We need to inform those MF Maoists' supporter's identity to FBI.  Then, they will deport them to their land.

The counter argument on "enjoying capatilastic product"  is that per definition of capitalism itself, nothing is free...and if its not free....you probably paid for those somehow...and if you paid for it then there is no guilt, is there??

How can you say Maoism is a totalitarianism" 40% of Nepal population are extreme communists and other 30% are moderate comunists/socialists. Isin't it the rule of democracy that you let the majority rule? If you want to call them that based on their past..every party in Nepal including the Kings are assoicated with Rape, Murder, and Loot. UML, Congress, Mao, Kings, Ranas were all " same dang ko mula". Maoists are no longer underground, they went on election and gathered most votes from the people of Nepal.

I hate to say this but they do represent most people in Nepal.

 Shantipriya,
   What ever you are saying doesnot make sense at all. Living in western countries has nothing to do with what sb supports. I think the reason why so many Nepali still support Maoist is "they are the better options in terms of political change (in general any kinds of change in the country)" We have seen that in past. I want the present political deadlock to end and maoist on the government. To finalize the peace process and draft constitution, all the political parties need to go together. If maoist decides to back up, nothing gonna happen even if rest of the parties are on one side and maoist on the other side. 
   At this point, keep your opinion with yourself. You might have been blessed with the grace of corrupted NC leaders or some other crooks and you dont like the verdict of Nepali people. So stop whining and complaing in sajha.

5 days ago
 

 sidster,
You might wanna live with marxist crap in your life. I have no problem with it. Then, why  coming to west ? You could have gone to North Korea or China.
Talking about America supporting others is total BS in this topic. Shantipriya is talking about individual who are romaticized with commie crap; meanwhile enjoy every freaking thing capitalism and democracy has given to them.

Shantipriya,
I think they are retarded. You wrote maoist. But I feel any one who supports some form of marxism and comes to west is a retard or absent minded at the best. I totally freaking hate these jackasses.

Mav.

Sidester you raised valid " irony"-  There are many reasons why people supported maoists- not all supported them were maoists and for many maoists were only " unknown/unused" option. Here I am talkng of a different context where you have seen the system (not flaw less) - you praised it, adapted it, enojyed it , you would never criticize it -yet having seen , experinced and taking advantage of the system- you still want the failed system- " YCL raj, confisticating private property and so on" .. and the past of others rular on are imcomparable with the atrocity caused by maoists-13000 death including brutal murder of poor teacher and so on..how can you justify?

 11 days ago

Sidester you raised valid " irony"-  There are many reasons why people supported maoists- not all supported them were maoists and for many maoists were only " unknown/unused" option. Here I am talkng of a different context where you have seen the system (not flaw less) - you praised it, adapted it, enojyed it , you would never criticize it -yet having seen , experinced and taking advantage of the system- you still want the failed system- " YCL raj, confisticating private property and so on" .. and the past of others rular on are imcomparable with the atrocity caused by maoists-13000 death including brutal murder of poor teacher and so on..how can you justify?

I agree with everything you have said above. It would have made more sense if your thread was titled " Do you support Prachanda and Mao party"? To that thread my answer would have been, NO - With all the reasons you mentioned above. But can people who want to support any party (gang of theives, frauds, and loots ) in Nepal living in the West....YES THEY CAN. The majority of western country gives civil liberty and individual rights to like and talk about whoever this want.   

Mavrick, 

Since you have labeled me as a Marxist, i guess i can label you as a fascist now for forcing labels on me. Should i say to you kindly " what are you doing here in the west, please move back to Iran or something"   

SABAI MAWOBADI LAI MARNU PARCHA...........MAWOBADI HARU KHATE HARU HO.......[Disallowed String for - bad word] MAWOBADI KO SUPPORTER HARU TIMI HARU PANI KHATE NAI HO

SHANTIPRIYA BRO, GOOD TOPIC !!!

Duality is one of the most deep rooted aminity of all communists, they have the hugest credibility gap. What they say and do differ mammothly. Most of the maoists supprters (now in USA) used to rant incessantly about " american imperialism", but they did everything to be here. Even their idols will die to be in the USA. They are enjoying all the freedom and right democracy can deliver, nonetheless they are still supporting maoism in nepal, a rotten and obsolete piece of crap. I am damn sure they hate to assert themselves as a communist in front of an american because for american communists are a metonym for a murderer.

All the maoist supporters living here hate USA as per their ideology but at the same time they love american life from deep within. So, I don't wanna waste my time revoking such two faced MOUNTEBANKS !!!!

sidster,
if you are not talking about yourself than I don't know what makes you think to solicit for the others. So, are you a self-appointed solicitor-of-commies? Anyone who supports the cause of commie is a commie. Unlike you, I don;t think I am putting/supporting my views for fascism/ or their "rights" of preaching fascism to others. If I had, that would have made me fascist too. But I did not.

I can understand many people in West supporting for marxist idea and still living here but as a immigrant you had a choice to go where ever you want. US is for political freedom. Don't you think they (if you are NOT) should have gone to those states who are for the values they are supporting or just live where they were if they didn't have choice?

But if you remember they make you sign a form which ask you implicitly state if you are related to any communist organization. Perhaps there are reasons for it. They support a views/theory for one state, singularism, dictatorship, no property rights; and or self-obsessed solicitors-for-the-mankind like you are here in west preaching their rights of liberty, plurarism and democracy. 

Marxism and democracy are two different philosophy which cannot exist together. It is whole different way of thinking of "anything" and "everything". Anyone who supports commie crap and comes to west is nothing but a effing retard or absent minded at best. And, if you support them, you are the same. You might just be in the closet. So, don't come and tell me you are not one of them or preach me their rights. I goddamn know what are the rights and what are not. 

If you read the topic, this thread is not for what is their rights, or what should America/West do. The orignator simply ask you what do you think about the commies who while preach their commie crap back home are residing in the epitome of democray/capitalism.
Mav.

 it's because of dv lottery. dv lottery has almost no check for maoist because there is not solid data base and honest of Nepali police and often it can be bribed. so they come in here in dv lottery. It is an irony American labels maoists as bad boys but gives them residencies and citizenship eventually.

Any one who supports the maoists also supports all their illegal activities.....they also support  that  its ok to prove a point through violence as the Maoist did by the death of thousands of Nepalese. SUPPORT is saying I agree. So if you agree that the Maoist are good people then thats your opinion and its our opinion that they are a curse.  In my opinion These mofos living here enjoying democracy and capitalism are hypocrites. They want people in Nepal to live like ants in the name of equality and common good but they live here enjoying free life. Hasnt history taught these mofos any lesson......The root of Khmer rouge on Cambodia where millions died was because the poor were brainwashed against the lower and upper middle class and the upper class, educated and scholars..all wiped out or took refuge in other countries. YES PRACHANDA started his so called revolution promising better life to the poor BY SNATCHING IT FROM THOSE WHO HAD IT. He blamed the rest of Nepal for their poverty and ordered the wide spread murder and destruction of people who in their eyes were RICH. Poverty is a curse and its sad there is a lot in our Nepal, and Prachanda used that as a weapon. SO has poverty vanished from Nepal? No its gotten worse as Prachanda and gang now enjoy fruitful luxurious lives, from the jungle to a palace while all his supporters are left in hope ............SO all you who support Prachanda and Gang........look at him now..looks like he is enjoying corrupt democracy and free for all capitalism way too much......he has abandoned you and your beliefs.....you should do the same.

Maoist acitivitities  are all criminal and punisable and must be punished.

Maverick,

Where do you see me preaching Commie views on my post?? If you read my post i have not said anywhere that Prachanda and Maos are good. If you accuse me of being a marxist for not believing your ideas.....in the same context i guess i can call you a fascist for imposing your anti (whatever) to others.

And the thing about asking people to go back....why don't you let them stay here and YOU go back to vote against Communists back home....they desperately need people like you and your votes back home. Commies are outnumbering your kind 7 out of 1 back home. Go back and make a difference instead of shouting on the board. I am being serious here and i am not trying to put words in your mouth. Most of your kind has left Nepal and all they have left is Bhoka Shyal.

I have concluded that all parties in Nepal including the Kings are bunch of thieves with different name and neither one of them weighs more or less to me. In US i am closer to being a libertarian than any other available ideals.

 Samarthan ta thikai chha, yaaha ta nepaalmaa maaobaadi samarthan garne ani yaaha aaera feri maaobaadi pidit ho ma nepalmaa bhanera asylum file garne ta chhan , tiniharulaai ke bhanne khai.. 

feri ti baaburaam ra prachanda americaa aako belaamaa tinko kuro sunna jaane maanchhe kati.. nepaalkaa sojhaa saajhaalaai ta thage thage, americaa aaera pani nepaalilaai thagne chhodenan hai inle. 

jaye hosh.... 

Zimdai,

Thik kura garnu bhayo...Mao ka ta ke kura....Jyanmara rapist Paras US aayo bhane ta, teslai bhetna jana ko bhid huncha yeta...Mao the Nepal nai dhakera basya manche bhaye.

New Road Ghar hune le pani...Maobadi pidit bhanera Asylum halne chan yaha..