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yusuf_aalam
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Posted on 05-18-06 10:52
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As far as I remember there was never a strong demand for removing hindu rastra tag from nepal. Why did Girija do it? I am afraid people will hold muslims and christians in nepal responsible for this change while truth is that most nepali muslims dont take beef even when outside nepal... we also protested when someone said that sow-slaughter should be allowed in nepal. I believe that the new declaration will make minorities scapegoat. Nepal will also become like india where religions can not exist in peace. Some people from my place are happy about this but I feel terrible... am I wrong?
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ImI
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Posted on 05-18-06 12:14
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I liked all the proclamtion but this one.Caste system is bad but we need to preserve our culture and religion.Anyways since they decided to go along with making nepal secular .GIRIJA and MADhav should set example eating BEEF with friend Parchanda. in public .bastards.
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yusuf_aalam
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Posted on 05-18-06 12:25
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I am only sad that a 'uniqueness' of nepal has been lost for ever... without anyone asking for it. However 10 years down the line people will blame this on muslims for sure... they will bring articles saying how muslims could not co-exist with hindus and how they disliked the tag of hindu rastra... how they are intolerant etc. Girija and prachanda are big mutherfu****
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Thaha_Panyen
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Posted on 05-18-06 12:33
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They wanted to remove the tag "Kingdom" which sticks with the tag "Hindu" in the constitution of 2047. To remove the both, they removed first the "Hindu" one. People from all religions were practicing their respective faiths in a peaceful manner respecting the other's faith. Therefore, this won't be a problem in the future, I hope. However, there are still some chances that some Mandales excite some Hindu religious groups in the villages and cities to oppose the decision so that it might eventually weaken this proclamation. I agree with Yusuf that this issue could be decided through constituent assembly election instead.
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matyangro
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Posted on 05-18-06 12:55
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answer to kalkikapil's question: Who will check the PM & Politicians: there'll no one to check them since their stars are in the ascendant for the time being; if they can hack King, they can be hacked by someone perhaps by people if they come against their stand and return to political scuffle but I am not sure as one day hot iron rod will surely cool down. Will the victims of maoists-terrorists get justice?: They will never get justice except some monetary relief if provided or some sort of orbituary and will disappear in history. But the kins of maoists victims can be very dangerous to both maoist and Nepal in the future if further imbalance prevails in nepal. Will someone try Prachanda for killing 14000+ innocent men/women/children?: Yes, of course, he will be tried in would-be civil war, hope it wont take place here in Nepal. But by whom? Look--you will belive or not--prachanda, Baburam will be shot to death by someone. They will be gunned down--by whom,perhaps by one of the victims of maoist atrocities. So will we have free for all missionaries? now will we have soon new johns, steves, julies, susans?: But there are already christian missionaires that r exploiting many unprivileged and poor lot in rural areas through money,incentives in return for proselytization--convert to christian religion. did anyone, even these politicians raise voice against them? They never did, will never try to do it--for they dont want to make their sponsors unhappy.
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karmarana
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Posted on 05-18-06 1:41
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India is Secular.. Nepal is now Secular... the process is going ON. Finally India is India, Nepal is also India.
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aman
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Posted on 05-18-06 1:45
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The HOR has no right to declare secularism. It should be voted by people. They can not do whatever they want. Nepal must be Hindu country because it has historical values.
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matyangro
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Posted on 05-18-06 1:52
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karmarana, what do you want to mean to us by your statement that Nepal is also india. Give some logical view about it? will you?
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mansion
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Posted on 05-18-06 2:31
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kukur ko puchor 12 barsa samma dhungro ma rakhe ni, bangya bangai jastai ho yo chai. secular gare ni, HM govt of Nepal lai, just Nepal Govt vane ni, or RNA lai only Nepal Army vane ni....nothing will matter unless the citizen of nepal ,nepali janta chages their attitude and be more vigulent and responsible.
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KnightCrawler
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Posted on 05-18-06 2:52
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Reading at most of the posts, seems like we all agree that the move in the proclaimation to make Nepal a Secular is not really welcome. I would care much less....about the other two...calling RNA Nepal Army and the Govt..Govt. of Nepal over HMG.....One thing that bothers me is, the current Govt. is just trying to clear path to more corruption and the like...I think (just my opinion), the next step should be to create a non-political Anti-Corruption Agency..who has the authority to nab anyone including the PM through the orders of the Supreme Court....why can't the current Govt do something that actually the People care about.....Changing the name of the Govt, or the name of the Army force ain't gonna chaange a thing. UK still calls its armed forces Royal...but it is under the control of the PM and the parliament....We need some substantial actions, not just mere words and name to fool us, yet again !! Hope it is not just a bright spark, that will soon disappear, and the darkness will engulf Nepal again.....
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IndisGuise
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Posted on 05-18-06 2:54
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So the long holidays in Dashain and Tihar be scrapped? It is primarily a Hindu festival right? Or shall we declare vacation for every other religion's significant days? Or scrap all public holidays based on religion? If I was a school kid, I would prefer second option. Aba Shiva ratri ma ni ke bida dyai bho ra? Pashupatiaka Bhole dev rastriye bhagwan ni rahena ke re. Dhanna gaja dhatturo tanne din haru history bhaye. Natra ta yesai kura ma arko andolaan chedinthe. Re kya ;) IndisGuise:)
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mansion
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Posted on 05-18-06 2:55
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Man this is all ole good poliitcs to make sure maobadi are happy and they dont start other violence, adn just to curtail the current emotions of ppl ( which most of them were maobadi in the demonstration) why else do u think, the govt didnt take the king out even when they could have done it and everyone would support it. girija wants king as well, he just doenst say it loud, he knows if he takes the king out, he'll be next to be kicked in his chauripareko ass by prachanda. welcome ..once again to nepali politics...where once again nepali jantas are in illusion.
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BinodB
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Posted on 05-18-06 3:54
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Mero Pyaro hindu rastra Nepal ko Hindu tag gayeko ma ma dukhit chu !!! Nepal is always a hindu country.
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Vhootee
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Posted on 05-18-06 4:04
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I'm glad to hear a secular country. Every body should be equal, or you're a hypocrat.
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knt
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Posted on 05-18-06 4:13
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This is a good move. Also, a monthlong holiday for Dasain/Tihar needs to be tossed out the window as well. We should have at maximum a total of 10 official holidays, just like in the United States. This will make the country more productive. I hope they also address the sexist part of the constitution, which declares that to be a citizen your dad has to be a citizen as well. This is totally sexist and is based on the fact that Hindu society is mostly patrilineal. Scrap this, because it is against women. The next thing to be addressed is this: the constitution should protect minorities and untouchables, just as in the Indian constitution, and there should be no ambiguity. As a Hindu, I am glad that Nepal has been declared a secular state. This is a positive move that needs to be commended.
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ImI
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Posted on 05-18-06 5:24
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first of house cannot bring these illegal amendments.As ,what is going on is outside constitution.though i support most of the proposal house made up of corrupt leaders have no right to decide.Taking democracy away was unconsitutional.Deciding the stuff not in consititution is illegal. Change the damn consititution first and do whatever those bastards like.I wonder when will these corrupt MPs learn to do stuff legally!!loktanra re!no legality from the begining how democaracy is ever going to flourish!
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Harkey
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Posted on 05-18-06 5:25
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Hinduism is the identity (the history) of Nepal rather than just a mere religion practised by majority. The move by HoR is simply wrong. As put by other members it will now only promote new excuses for political parties to exploit the faith of people. It was a history of country of ours rather than a tag to promote the religion. Also, the military should work under some security council that should work independent of HoR. Now, as in other "Sansthan" if congress comes they will put their Chief and if "Yemale" comes they will put theirs and who knows what if Maobadis come in power. All they are doing is, before they were free to do corruption, now they will also have the army power to back their steps.
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ImI
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Posted on 05-18-06 5:31
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Knt, holidays don't lessen the productivity .It is the attitude of the people.what is the use even if u give no holidays when people don't work with dedication.
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hydrogen_sulphide
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Posted on 05-18-06 5:50
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i respect yusuf aalam's views about secularism, most of the hindu nepali also dont eat perk even they are out side the country.
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Kirsten
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Posted on 05-18-06 7:17
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What is the big deal? I'm sure they'll put the Hindu tag back on if many oppose the new tag.
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ImI
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Posted on 05-18-06 9:18
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i don't think they can put the tag back now.There will be party like BJP in nepal .It is bad for other religion in nepal.They were saved under hindu nation but now extreme brings extreme.
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