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तिका:
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Posted on 07-19-08 9:28
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भाते गधा बाहुन नेताहरुको किच्चड खेलले देश को राष्ट्रपति पनि मदिसे, उपराष्ट्रपति पनि मदिसे, त्यो पनि गतीलो मदिसे भए त ठिकै छ भन्न हुन्थ्यो, भ्रष्टाचारमा रङ्गे हात पकडिएर भविष्यको लागि अयोग्य भनेर डामेका मदिसे , थुक्क बाहुन नेता हो । तिमीहरुको यो लिच्चड ब्यबहारले मलाइ तिमीहरु सम्झ्यो कि घिन लागेर वाकवाकि आउँछ, टाउको दिग्मिगाएर रिङ्टा लाग्छ ।
हा----क थूूूूू
तिमी किच्चड स्वार्थी बाहुन नेताहरुले देशलाइ मदिसेको बपौति बनायो, भारतको अंग बनाउने कोशेढुङ्गा पल्टायो । रत्नाकर डाँकुले पनि नगर्ने मुर्खता गरेको देखेर मलाइ बाहुन भाषा र बाहुन जात प्रति नै घृणा लाग्यो , बाहुन भाषा विर्सन मन लाग्यो । यसै इण्डिया तेसै इण्डिया - अब आजैदेखि हिन्दी सिक्न थालुँ थालुँ जस्तो लाग्यो । बाँच्न त पर्यो नि ।
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Posted on 07-20-08 6:07
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Padma ratna tuladhar( udhay, maoist), Mathura Prasad Shrestha ( sheshya,maoist), Mall K Sundar ( sheshya,maoist), Hishila Yami(udhay, maoist), .. being newar what contribution they made to the country as a whole? Literally nothing. Have they ever gone beyond the boundary of ktm valley and raise any issue of nationla importance otherthan " typical sampradaik issue". one thing these names are the one who were/are raising separate newar desh one way or other, so newar were the first to start this racial thing since panchayet but terai has over taken newar now...but i do not think we can generalize not all newar wants division do they?? good and bad are in everycasete!
Pasa chanta chagu salla biya thana, Paila tha mesya chu sochye ya mala dhasa, bahun chhetri ta nepal ye east to west charey juyachowngu do. ale nyathaye na impi khane dai. Imiugu interest macha niche education, govt service, politics jui. Newa tegu interest machble nichen " business" yagu, pasa, jyasa le jya yagu dhai. Paila thayu chen na nichen tha mey sigu interest change ya, politics, administration job ye actively participate ya. bahun ta chettrai naurally imigu interest julin uke wona and naturally inpin apwo khani du kha. good or bad nwaku jya yasan dos imta ye lagejui. bhacha tha mesyu thinking horizan broad ya.
( those who does not understand newari- here is the translated version in english of above paragraph)
Mate, here is my suggestion for you. First of all you should understand bramin chettri are spreaded around the country east to west. So it is apparent that whereever you go, you will see bramin or chettri. secondly, bramin, from the childhood they empasize on education, politics and administration has always been their interest. where as newar love to do buisiness, whereever they go they open shop/workshop ( they seem always reluctant to do govt job, politics). therefore, first being newar you need to change your attitude and interest, you need to actively particpate into politics, administratitive job. bahun and chettri, because of their interest, their presense is significat and whatever good or bad they do, instead of person their "caste" is blamed often. this is nothing but a narrow minded attitude.
do you know newar outside the valley can not speak newari and some do not want to speak newari. they say thier mother tongue is not newar, they say it is nepali! have you ever gone beyond the valley???
rise above from racial mentality, you first need to change yourself!
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Lyause
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Posted on 07-20-08 7:18
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I respect Kanchu's feelings. Yo racial discrimination chai nalyaunae ho ki ? Everyone has a purpose, Bahuns
: Educators,(They Study and their family background support in their
educational behavior, padera they tend to be a
little more clever) Chettris: Fighters, (They studied, yet were
brave fighters.Since their attention was divided in to 2 phases,Were
not as clever as Bahuns) Newars: Businessman (Indigenous people of Kathmandu, Mostly Business oriented, rich in their own culture ) Madhesis:
People from the terai region of Nepal. (Madesh = madhya desh, primarily
from the plains, hard workers, more work
ethic and agriculture knowledge.) Janajatis : Workers (Hard workers, Yet lot of times did not succeed because of cheap labor ) Gurungs,
Rais Limbus mongolian looking : People from Northern Nepal (Usually
tough because of the effort required to go
around, hilly and mountainous regions need hard workers either for
plantation or even walking, so brave and
usually innocent, they do their stuffs and usually hope for result.) Mali aachammma lagirachha yaar . .mailae sabai yo bujhaunu parda. I thought we knew all this. Aren't we the so called educated people ??? ani aafu aafu ma maya ra sadbhav narakhera aajhaii ta yo anii ma yo bhandai chau .. hare yaar Please stop all this guys. Nabujhnae lai bhagwan lae sadbuddhi diyos. Jay Nepal
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Posted on 07-20-08 11:13
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Let's stop fighting
with each other and lets we all get united against those Nepali leaders
who are trying sell our country to India and destroy us. We must stop
otherwise our future generation will hate us. I am ready to fight, are you?
Jaba samma hami sabai afno haat baandera baschhaun taba samma Nepal kahile ubho lagdaina.
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Posted on 07-20-08 4:22
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Posted on 07-20-08 5:51
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I'm Bhraman and proud being it.
Once a distant fren of mine was bitchin about Bahuns, I beat the crap outta him infront of other people. (He is Newar)
Do you know why the hell rats keep on smashing everything they get ???
Becasuse not doing so, their tooth will eventually grow up and harm themselves.
Did you understand what I'm Trying to say!
Likewise, so called lower castes keep on bitchin about Bhramans.
Peace Out
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Posted on 07-20-08 6:12
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Kanchu,
I'm sure that you're not newar, you must have learnt newari, cos, that is must to live in kathmandu valley. Have you ever been to hile okhaldhunga, tumlingtar chainpur, newar's there still speaks newari, and they feel proud to be newars. leave about biratnagar, or hetauda.
You also don't know that, newars itself have brahmins to shudra. All newars don't do business. like joshi's, they are brahmins in newar, and they don't do business for example. they studies.All newars have own profession, they believe in their skill. But the only difference between bahuns and newari brahmins are:- bahuns does politics, and newars don't. they achieve their goals by their own. but bahuns through others ( parties or pulling somebody elses legs ). anyway there's no comparison between newar's and bahuns. newar's are civilized since decade, but bahuns of nepal just get into kathmandu, hungry and poor. so obviously they will do something bad to get money. but now it's enough I think.
and about casino, he didn't mention, how much he got later on. messing with newar haha.
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kanchu!
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Posted on 07-20-08 6:56
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first of all rajendar,
do not be stupid to assume like " I'm sure that you're not newar" and
and "You also don't know that, newars itself have brahmins to shudra." do you really know me son???
It does not really matter whether I am newar or non newar, or newar of britanagar, trisuli, hetaunda and so on. Whatever you say, writing the lines in the favor of particular caste and ethnicity, denigrating the othercasete, does nothing but it divide us "nepali" and pave way for invaders.
People like you have pushed the country where today it is, the very evil (racial mentality) lives inside you is the culprit and responsible for what is happening in our country.
about being newar or non newar, newari language, culture etc, will discuss someother day on different thread.
rise above from racial mentality, you first need to change yourself
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rajendar
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Posted on 07-20-08 7:35
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O.k kanchu. let's start talking about newar's culture then, this is nice thread. You seems to me like google on it. but the way you explained about newar shows something else. Why do you think, newars are racial? do they really care of it. They enjoys their culture, they loves their community. they wants to spend their life with it. Does this means they are racial, how they are racial? explain, They are trying to save their culture, language which is expensive No newar's are racial. See bahuns comment they says, bahuns are the best. Have you ever seen, any newar or rai or limbu or madhesi saying that. My comment's are for those bahuns, who really think ithey are the best and puts everybody in hell.
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Posted on 07-20-08 7:57
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Well we are just addicted to blame other people..We blame other people.. lets go back to the history.When J.B.Rana did the bhandarkhal parwa and kot parwa.we blame him... We blame Dhir Samsher and his seventeen sons for the plight that was created back then in NEPAL. We blame one of those Samshers for killing Trilokya Bir Bikram Shah ,the then crown prince of nepal... We blame Tribhuwan for being a coward and running away to the clemency of Nehru.. Now the country ..we had koiralas..WE blamed them..those three brothers..Bisheswar, matrika and girija..we blame them for creating this dynasty..We blame every one.. WE blame every body..we are crying little pussies.. we blamed Madhav kumar nepal for killing JFK of Nepal..Madan Bhandari.. Now we are blaming those paraquats who unfortunately happened to be bahuns or human beings.... Whose fault is this? It is our fault...our fault..We chose those Vaginal traumas...Those people who ruled our country controlled us by using the name race ethinicity and religion.. i am not religions person.i am an athiest..but i am aware of this thing in hindu mythology... "Manche Afno karma le brahaman bancha"..Brahaman means to be in the level of bramha...so do u guys think that those fags qualify to be in that level of brahma.. Nepal needs a change folks..aba j bhayo bhai halyo..lets not blame those bastards..lets not complain..and lets not hate.. If we are educated/rational..we would not use this term bahun and chetrri..but we are contaminated..we are addicted to hate..we hate muslims..we hate indians..we hate everything..we hate bahuns..we hate rulers..we just hate every one..Kaali yug ma Ram rajya hudaina...kaali yug ma janta le kei garnu parcha..hami individuallly auta sikshit manche jastari sochnu parcha..we are the cell of the society..we create society..we create leaders... JAI nepal....Jai Human being. abhored
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Posted on 07-20-08 8:35
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I think one of the vice precident cadidates was Newar from Maoist...how come she got lost????
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Posted on 07-20-08 9:32
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thukka bhusyaha syal haru
" bhai fute gawar lute" bhaneko esai lai bhanchan. aajhai ghusya chaina char jaat chattis barna ko sajha fulbari bhanne kura? ki char jaat chattis barna ko cultural war suru garne? bharkhar ta euta civil war sakiyo, katti ladna sakne kukkur haru!
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Posted on 07-21-08 2:47
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Having observed many different threads in Sajha, it's been obvious to me that the most racist attitude in Nepal are carried by Newari friends. No offence though. I'm not posting this message to add another racial comment, but we definitely need to identify and eliminate sourness within all different nepalese communities before we can actually fight against our other adversities to develop country. First of all, we need to make a habit of accepting each other and respect each others values. It does not matter who becomes President and Vice president of Nepal as long as they are Nepali. We should come out of the Geographical cage and make a broader perspective to understand the Country as a whole. For those who consider only Kathmandu Valley as the whole country, it may take some time to completely accept a Madhesi being President of Nepal. But, it's an unevitable fact that they should start broadening their view of Nepal from valley boundaries to it's actual periphery. Tika: might have born and brought up in Kathmandu. He can never understand how does the actual Nepal look like unless he goes and sees farmers in Terai and Himal regions.
I do not understand why Newari people always have so much bitterness against Bahuns and Madhesis. Newari community has been very successful in Business than others and also they have good impact in bureaucracy and many other fields.Why are they always complaining against bahuns and madhesis ? Lead positions in many of the political parties are bahuns does not mean that they are there by suppressing leaders from Newar and other communities. Bahuns and Kshetris are the most widespread communities in the country and certainly they are in much better position to accept every other communities. We cannot change history, but certainly can determine our future by taking positive steps and trying to find commanalities rather than differences. Lets try to understand the actual demography of the country and respect each others values. Tika:, if you consider yourself a Nepali, you should first know about your contry and it's people. At this time there does not exist a thing called Bahun bhasa. There is a common language for all Nepali people and that is 'Nepali'. I do respect Newari communities for their heritage, and most of my friends are Newars though I'm born in bahun family from Terai.
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Posted on 07-21-08 10:22
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Posted on 07-21-08 11:18
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yep...i agree with TIKA......BRO!!!!CANGRESS,MAO,YEEEEEMAAAALEEE. THESE..ALLL FU########KIN BAHUN....GREEDY JACKA####SS BAHUN GADHA HARU,DES LAI AAJA BECHI CHADYO....."LOV LE LAV LAV LE BIILAP"...ISN'T IT?????? YEAH ................................................................................................................................ONE MORE THING TODAY BAHUN PROVED THAT......,,,,,,BAHUN=======>>>>BADAR(MONKEY,DEEDHU ,LANGUR WHATEVER,HAHAHAHAHA) ....JASLE AAFNO GHAR PANI BANAUDAINA RA AARUKO PANI BIIIGARIDINCHHAAA...HAHAHAHHAHAHAHA........................................................................................................ NOW ONE THING FOR SURE "HINDI"'S GONNA BE NEXT NATIONAL LANGUAGE......TIKA BRO ADMIT ME TOO ON YOUR HINDI CLASS.......OOOOOPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...
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Posted on 07-21-08 12:16
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muji desh ko halat esto bhai sakyo yar aba ta sale haru ma nai hoon bhanna chodera nepali ho bhanne tira lagnu paryo ni hou. sale etro barsa desh bigaryo aba ta muji india jasto jhar pat le dhari hepna thalyo yar. bholi sale bhutan le ni hepla ani huda huda fiji ani maldives jasto twake desh haru le ni hepla yar. aba ta please sabai jana yar chodi deu esto discrimination and unite so that we can repeat the same feat that amar singh thapa and balbadra kuwar has achieved. thats kicking dhotis and british asses. Jai Nepal
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Posted on 07-21-08 2:25
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There is no doubt the worst leaders in Nepal are bahuns. The most racist cast in Nepal is bahuns. It is clear from this thread too. The racist bahuns campaign everywhere with the "I am the best" mentality, but as soon as they fail to show they are the best, they divert the topics and run away. Tell me bahuns, what is the best you have? Agriculture? Industry? Technology? Art? Food? Music? War-skills? Society? Architect? Business? Service? Brain? ha ha ha, Having educated politics for centuries, you even don't know how to put a bahun in the president's post, ha ha ha. Forget about the rest of the things, which you started to learn just few decades ago. When did you know there is meat inside a momo ? ha ha ha
As soon as this thread appeared, racist bahuns started cursing newars, as if I am a newar, ha ha ha. See, how bad these racist bahuns think against newar. Poor Newars, they are victims of racist bahuns. Whenever someone attack bahuns, bahuns attack newars, and the newars versus bahuns fight errupt at every corner of the forums like sajha. I feel bad for newars. Sorry fella newars, if I stimulated racist bahuns to spit venom against you. The only good is you got to see true racist face of bahuns unmasked here.
I am not a newar. I am a Chaudhary, came to KTM at my 14 for education. I have no home in KTM, stayed in rooms rented from both newar family and bahun family. I know the difference.
I have many good bahun friends but none of them are honest, ha ha ha, all of them are greedy, ha ha ha, They come to my room hungry from the early morning when I invite them for dinner, ha ha ha, Poor me, I got to see such bahuns around me, too bad. I don't mean all bahuns are same. To be honest, I like that typical bahun mentality and their shameless showoffs, seriously, because there is some sort of amusement I enjoy while watching them behave that typical, ha ha ha. (Someone mentioned above, there is newar bahuns too, who are not like the typical non-newar bahuns, I don't know about this.)
When I mentioned बाहुन भाषा in this thread, these racist bahuns got mad. They claim their बाहुन भाषा as the nepali भाषा, this is totally bullshit. These cunning bahuns are shameless to rename their भाषा wherever they go. When they were in far western खस community, they said their भाषा is खस भाषा. They gradually moved eastward and built their strong hold in पर्वत region. They started to name their भाषा as पर्वते भाषा. There are many communities who call these बाहुन भाषा as the पर्वते भाषा until these days. Once Gorkha became powerful with strong presence of bahuns as the helper of Gorkhali Kings, they said their भाषा as गोर्खाली भाषा. People from Darjeeling to Dehradoon have named this बाहुन भाषा as the गोर्खाली भाषा. We know why the pioneering बाहुन भाषा magazine was named गोर्खापत्र. The बाहुन भाषा was not claimed as नेपाली भाषा even after a Gorkhali King ruled नेपाल उपत्यका for a long time, because thakuris and chhetris were powerful enough. The बाहुन भाषा was called as either गोर्खाली भाषा or पर्वते भाषा.When thakuris and chhettris were sidelined by the बाहुन people in the नेपाल उपत्यका, then this बाहुन भाषा was called नेपाली भाषा. For most of young generation under the influence of महेन्द्रमाला, they think, the बाहुन भाषा is नेपाली भाषा, which is totally untrue.
मुझे लगता है कि अगर ये पहारी बाहुन लोग चीन पहुँच जाते तो वो कहते है कि उनका भाषाके नाम चीन्याली भाषा है, अगर वो बिहार मेँ शासन करते तो वो उनका भाषाके नाम बिहारी भाषा भी रख सकते है । लो अव ये नेपाल जब भारत कि होगि, ये बाहुन लोग बोलेंगे कि उनका भाषा भारतेली भाषा है ।
देखो भै, हमने तो हिन्दी पराउटिस कर्ने सुरु किया, वो बब्बन सिंह भी बाहुन भाषा नहि जानते है, और पत्रकार भी हिन्दी मे हि पुछ रहे थे । नेपाल तो अब वैसे हि नइ नेपाल बनता है । क्युँ कि यहाँ के नेता बाहुन नेता जो है ना ।
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Dear tika:,
The a-holes like you are the biggest problems of this country. The lower grade mentalities like yours is somehthing that must be eliminated from this country before anything better can happen here. I am proud to be a Nepali and I do have equal respect for all the ethnic groups who lives in this country. The filthy mind like you can neither be Newar, Chaudhary or Bahun. Dude, I have also lived all my life with Newars and all different Madhesi people. And I know how good they are and how bad some individuals (like you) in all different communities can be. You in no way represent Newar or Chaudhary community, coz you are the dirty part of the community whichever you are from, who is mainly focussed on creating holes in the harmonious relationships between all different native Nepali people. Yea, you should better start learning hindi coz the dividing attitude like yours will not be able to survive in Nepal. Copying Khas bhasa's history from some website or book and trying to create a fake influence among sajha readers does not prove that you are a serious individual . At the end of your copied material, you have itirated the same thing that i was trying to say in my previous post (aren't you smart enough..hmm). I have grown up with Newars and I have the very honest Chaudhary friends and close families with whom I have spent best times of my life. And still I am saying that Newars are more racists than others. This has something to do with the geography and close community in the valley where they have always lived. You might have seen how are many madhesis treated in Kathmandu. I am not bringing this to disrespect Newari community as a whole. Rather to bring into light the aspects of societies which need to be corrected so that everybody will be able to respect others existence and values. Trust me, it is still very hard for many of Newari people to accept a Madhesi as a president of Country and bahuns as better people coz they feel like they are conquered by other communities in their own place, and which happens to be Kathmandu valley. And that is the core of dislike that they have for bahuns and madhesis and arises from the insecurities they have for their culture and heritage which they have maintained for hundreds of years.
There are hundreds of problems in each different communities that will gradually eliminate as we accept each other well and move along together. Many individuals from many different communities consider bahuns as the biggest problem and bitch. But bear in mind, it's the bahun and khetris who have actually glued the whole country and all different ethnic groups together coz they are more widespread than any other communities and speak the language that is common to all different communities. It may sound like boasting about bahuns and khetris, but it's because of these communities that Nepal today exists as a single country. Otherwise it would still be Bayaisi and Chaubishi rajyas or probably would have already been a history. Hold on, again see these are not the statements that I am posting here to seek differences between bahuns and others. This is just an answer to your sourness about bahuns.
There are things we need to accept because we have to grow together and go ahead in making a prosperous Nepal. This country can't exist without Newars, without Chaudharis, without Rajbanshis,without Gurungs, Magars, and without any other group that constitute a part of the big Nepali community. There are so many facts that exist. They are there because of our geo-political and geo-social history.Not that we created those. But we certailny have to eliminate those if they are problems, not by bitching each other, but trying to seek solutions to those. And that is certainly not possible with attitude like yours.
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3X
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Posted on 07-21-08 11:43
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"देखो भै, हमने तो हिन्दी पराउटिस कर्ने सुरु किया, वो बब्बन सिंह भी बाहुन भाषा नहि जानते है, और पत्रकार भी हिन्दी मे हि पुछ रहे थे । नेपाल तो अब वैसे हि नइ नेपाल बनता है । क्युँ कि यहाँ के नेता बाहुन नेता जो है ना ।" yo saala तिका: (= चिका: ) Baban Singh ko chela ho. yo saale bihari ho. Yesko kaam nai nepali dai-bhai lai futaaune ho.Beware of this चिका: mentality.
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Posted on 07-22-08 12:29
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बाहुन भाषाको जबरजस्त नेपाली भाषा कहेने वाला एक खडयन्त्र था । हा हा हा , क्या खतरा बात कहेदिया है ना मैने । हा हा हा । नेपाल देशको ये किच्चड बाहुन ने इण्डिया मे डाल दिया । नाटक करके सला ये बाहुन लोग अन्दरसे मदिसे लोग से मिला हुआ है । अगर नेपालमे आगे १०-२० साल मदिसेका राज चलें तो ये बाहुन लोग बोलने लगेगा कि उनका बाहुन भाषा हि मदिसे भाषा है । अभि भि कभि कभि ये बोलता है कि ये बाहुन लोग मदेसमे जादव से भि पहले से था । ये बाहुन लोग भुलगया कि हम थरुइ लोग इहाँ ३००० साल से है ।
jeffali तु ने मुझे जो गाली दी है ना, मुझे हँसि आइ, हे हे हे । जा जाके मदिसेको गाली दो, वो तेरा माइबाप बनके बैठा है ना, दु थप्पर खाके भाग मत जाना, बहादुर बनके जाना हँ । मुझे ऐसा बाहुन mentality देखना अच्छा लगता है, ये कितना रेसिस्ट है फिर भि उपदेश देता है, सला This country can't exist without Newars, without Chaudharis, without Rajbanshis,without Gurungs, Magars, and without any other group that constitute a part of the big Nepali community कहता है, वो इतना चालाख है कि without bahun लिखता हि नहिं क्यूँ कि वो बाहुन अपुनको बाँकि सबका उपर रखता है, सला बाहुन ।
देखो देखो, ये सला बाहुन लोग को बहुत गुस्सा आया । टुप्पि उछालके मुझे गाली देने लगी । हा हा हा । लाज शरम नहिं है ? सला बाहुन भाषाको नेपाली भाषा बोलता है ?? सला राष्ट्रपति और उपराष्ट्रपति दे दिया अब प्रधानमन्त्री और सरकार भी उनै मदिसेको देगा तु ?? कथि बिचार करेछ हँ ?
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