नेपालभासया  महाकवि सिद्धिदास महाजुं "जिमिगु भाय नेवारी मखु नेपालभास  ख:" धका आन्दोलन न्ह्याकादीगु ८० दं ति दये धुन्कल | तर आ नं "नेवारी" धाइपिं यक्व हे दु | खस् भास छ्यलीपिन्सं ला "नेवारी" या सक्कली नां "नेपालभास" ख: धका ए मथू थें च्वन | न्ह्याथाय नं "नेवारी" "नेवारी" च्वया हैरान ए यायू | तर आ फेसबुक पाखें छगू बाँलागु ज्या जू वन | आ "नेवारी" मखु "नेपालभास" छ्यले मा: धैगु चेतना वइ कि?

Almost 80 years ago, the great poet Siddhidas Mahaju said "Our language is not 'Newari', it is Nepalbhas." But the word "Newari" is still used by many people. Most of them do not know what is wrong with "Newari", particularly among the "Khas" language users. Now the popular social network site has taken down the word "Newari" from its profile database. Thousand of pages using the word "newari" are replaced by "Nepalbhasha" according to an article posted on nepalmandal dot com.

I would appreciate if Sajha could also correct the wrongly used word.

Details here: http://www.nepalmandal.com/content/12548.html

फेसबुकं 'नेवारी' खँग्वः लिकाल

न्ववाइगु भाय्‌या सूचीइ 'नेवारी' खँग्वः लिकयाः 'नेपालभाषा' तयेगु इनाप लिपा अन्ततः सोसल नेटवर्क साइट फेसबुकं 'नेवारी' खँग्वःयात पूर्ण रुपं चिइकूगु दु । थ्वया लिपा आः फेसबुक छ्यलीपिं द्वलंद्वः नेवाःतय् प्रोफाइलय् न्ववाइगु भाषाया रुपय् नेपालभाषा धकाः खनेदये धुंकूगु दु ।

न्हूगु परिवर्तन लिपा फेसबुकय् थःम्ह न्ववाइगु भाय्‌ धकाः प्रोफाइलय् भाय्‌या नां 'nepal ..' निसें च्वयेगु शुरु याःसा 'Nepal Bhasa' धकाः अटो कम्पलिट अप्सन बिइ । अथे हे 'newa' प्यंगः आखः टाइप यायेवं 'Newar / Nepal Bhasa' धकाः अप्सन बिइ । यदि 'newari' धकाः भाय्‌या नां च्वत धाःसा उगु भाय्‌या नां स्वतः नेपालभाषा धकाः हिलाबिइ, 'newari' धकाः भाय्‌या नां च्वके बिइमखु । उलि जक मखु थ्व स्वयां न्ह्यः नेवारी धकाः थःगु भाय्‌या नां च्वयातःपिनि दक्वसिया प्रोफाइलय् 'Newar / Nepalbhasa' धकाः स्वतः हिउगु दु ।

लुमंके बह जू, विश्वया दक्वं भाषाया नां व कोड ISO या ज्या याइगु लाइब्रेरि अफ कंग्रेसलिसे नेवाःतय्‌सं न्ववाइगु भाय्‌यात नेपालभाषा धकाः च्वयेत इनाप लिपा न्हापा नेवारी धकाः जुयाच्वंगु नांयात छुं दँ न्ह्यः नेवारी, नेपालभाषा धकाः भिंकूगु खः । नेपालभाषाया ISO 639-2 कोड new खः ।

Amazing how the races and tribes complain about prejudgement ouside of thier races and how much racist they are among themselves.

When i was in pokhara....i talked to bunch of Humlis who thought Jumlis were pakhe and gawar....Also in pokhara how Gurungs thought Magars were lesser than themselves.

Basically, there isin't one race or tribe that can raise its finger on another. The whole scenerio is like" aafu guhu ko khaldo ma basera bahira ka lai thukne kaam" matra ho.


Outsid of this i have a quick question for our Newar friends ---How did you feel when your Newar parents came to school to pay the fees or to see the teacher and they spoke to you in Newari infront of your friends? Did not you wish that they would not speak to you in Newari in public. And some of you Newars, why do you reply your parents back in Khas bhasa even when your Newari Parents are asking questions in Newari???

This may not apply to all the grown up Newars who have come to their senses about preserving their language and culture but at one point you were probably that guy.

khoikkhoik,

"Purbagraha, sankuchit, sampradaik," jasta alankar aarop lagaun nai hataar kina? tapai malai jati "Purbagraha, sankuchit, sampradaik," dekhnu hunchha, mero najarma tapai tesko 5 guna badhi dekhinu hunchha hola, tesaile yesto waihyat alankaar chhodera aafno kura rakhnu holaa.

"Achamma lagcha.. .. lok sewa ma khas bhasa jaane bhanera extra aanka ta paaka hoina hola ni ?"
kehi individuals padmaa pugeko wa napugeko adharma hoina, samagra system kasari parichalit chha tyo aadharmaa hernu parchha. Nepal's current system is still unitary khas dominated system as it was in Rana/Panchayet period. Mathillo nikaye dekhi tallo nikayesamma prashasanyantra ustai chha, sthaniya chunav huna nasakekole sabaitira karmacharitantra havi chha. Karmacharitantra, Nyayapalika jasta nikayeharu naya niyam nabanesamma purano paramparaa baatai chalchha, naya sambidhan banaune kaam adkirakheko chha, jatibelasamma tyo pura hunna, khas ekadhikaar kaayam nai rahnchha, tesaile byakti jo aayepani daadu panyu khas-ekadhikarikai haat ma chha. loksewako exam ma pani khas bhasalai prathmikata dinchha. Anya bhasama bachlor, masters gare pani promotion point paudaina, khas bhasa ma garyo bhane paaune niyam chha.


"khoi kun sandarbha ma hamro bhasa ko nibedan...... k teslai ni top core newar ko agosit karya niti bhanne ??"
sandharva, samaan adhikaar chaiyo bhanne bittikai sanghuro sochai bhanne alankar / upamaa sita sambandhit ho. adhikaar ko kura garda jaagir kai chinta badhi hunchha tapaiharulai hagi? bhasa najaaneko manchheko bastimaa saruwa bhayo bhane ke garne holaa bhanne chintaale satauchha hagi? testai chinta uniharuma pani thiyo chha ra rahanechha bhanne socheko khoi? Rastrale pahila samaan adhikar dine vyavasthaa garnu paryo, ani jaagir, saruwa, badhuwa, niyukti jasta kuro aauchha. hamro jasto multi-ethnic samaajma local bhasha jannelai prathmikata dine niti lyayo bhane pani khas-ekadhikarbata pidit samaajlai dherai rahat hunchha. tara khas haru aafno bhasha chahi laadera bhaye pani ghokaune, aruko bhasaa chai byabaharik sajilo ko nimitt sikna pani hichkichaaune - yesto double standard chha, yo ta bhayena ni. Bhanyo, feri anek kuro jodera kataako kuro kataa laijaana khojchha.

Tharithariko newar bhashako kuro uthaunu bhayo, tapaile "different dialect" ra "different language" ko bhinnataa bujhne prayash garnus, aafai charlanga hunchha. Aba feri jaatiya rajya hyantyan ko kuro kina taneko hola yo dhaago maa? ki bhayebharko sabai chhinofaano yehi thread maa garne bichar ho? naam galat bhayo hai bhanera bhanna saath lau rajya nai magna aayo, lakhetnai thalyo, jahaajai dubna lagyo jasari yeti saro bichalit huna jaruri chhaina, thauprasanga milayera matra kuro rakhe kuro garna ni sajilo hunechha. aba pujariko kuro, rajniti, sanskriti ra paramparako niyam ra manyataharu ustai hunu parchha ra? Pashupatima nepali purohit rakhna khojda ke ke dekhiyo, bujhnalai tei nai kaafi chhaina?


"maile bujh pacha ko hoina.. ...kehi thaha cha tanpain lai"
Brazilma portugese bhasa bolneharu Portugalma bhanda badhi chha, tara tiniharule tyo bhashako naam Brazilian narakhi Portugese nai rakchhan. South dekhi North America chhariyeko Spanish bhasa bolneko population Spain sita dajyo bhane kati guna farak chha holaa? tara tiniharu ajhai Spanish nai bhanchhan, American bhandainan yo kina hola? Yeti bujhyo bhane "Newa bhasa" ra "Nepal Bhasa" bich tapaisita raheko confusion clear hunuparchha. Uso ta "Newaa Bhaye" ra "Nepalbhas" interchangable pani ho, Nihon ra Nippon jastai. Dialect ko kuro mathi nai lekhi sake, Detail aafai bujhne kasta garnu holaa.

BathroomCoffee,

long time no see.

"Potatoes ......Potaatoes
Tomatoes ...... Tomaaatoes
I mean wot is the difference.  ..."

No difference in sajha, actually, spell-checker does the job in most cases. I have pasted a news about one of recent FB-spell-checker above, but some friends did not like the tool. And, there are many questions/answers/corrections/twists - well it is a classic Sajha Train.

Shantipriya,

Your comment shows you are losing your temper, you should not if you want to get your message pass through. I prefer civilized exchange of opinions rather than a$$-words.

"chana ko kura le sarai hass uthyo.......lol..are you what? I-word?"
If you speak maithali and tharu, you would know better, but my maithali and tharu friends have told me some derrogatory words they use against others. If you don't know how Sen, Marsya, Khen, Barmu words are evolved in Newa language, you should first try to find them, before calling me insane.
सँ देय  - the Newar word for northern country (tibet) --> सँमि / सँय  - people of north country --> सँय/ सें - short latest form used in oral communication
मध्यदेस - the middle region of southern plain -->  मह्रेस - newar form -->   मह्रेसिया   - people of that region -->  मर्सिया  - short latest form
खस् - the name of community --> खय - (y and s are interchangeable in Newar language when they appear in the end of noun) --> खँय / खें - short latest form
ब्राह्मण - the priestly people --> ब्रम्हु  - newar form of the same word --> बर्मु - short latest form
Also, Kasai or Kasaini are not Newar words. I don't use "Usha Kasaini" because Usha's choice is "Khadgi". If she prefers "Khadgi", you/me can't use "Kasaini" or any other words.  


"and about KTM water supply, look..... polluted make sense?"
You first mentioned "we are just 5% of  population yet we .... have everything in KTM", I refuted and arguments are there above. If we find how many % of total water supply budget used in Newar core area in the last 50 years and how much water-tarriff is collected back by the government from the same area, we can compare this against the rest of Nepal. Then we will know the real picture. My friends working in Khanepani Bighag and Khanepani Sansthan have told me that the budget in development/maintenance/and operation of Water Supply in KTM is fewer than other area compared to per-capita basis.

I am surprised to see you writing baseless sentences like "no toilets (still go to thimi or bhaktapur you will still find same case)". Bro, please visit Thimi, Bhaktapur (you may dislike this request) to see that 99% houses are equipped with toilets. BTW Bhaktapur is cleaner than KTM and Patan these days.

"and about KTM outside knowledge, ....he is not khas, he is also a janajati. "
I don't need bragging. Some friends asked me about outside Newars' position, and I mentioned. Sending info about some scholar? You are very welcome. I respect scholars who have passion to have in-depth knowledge.

"and stop asking ... since 1990 OK now:-) "
Well, you should say only the truth. You mentioned that 6 miles away from KTM is miserably under-developed. That was true in my childhood. But now, you don't see difference between New Baneswor and Kaushaltar-Balkot.

"And since you are again and again questioning history.... including for their being dumb@@@.. "
Where did you find me asking about history in this thread? Please stop making your assumptions. Why JP Malla and PN Shahs are eating you up today? 

"Newar should let go this defeated mentality ......your kind of Newars? "
I wonder why you think "Newar" (you mentioned you are proud to be) have 'defeated mentality'. The "defeated mentality" is the state of mind of someone who end-up doing nothing because he does not believe he can do it. For me, Newar, despite having diverse opinion, their commonality is that they work hard and they believe they can do it. Think about those amazing architect, art, and achievements of the past, and think about the achievements of present day Newars, you will not find "defeated mentality" prevail the society. You should understand that the US defeated Japan but did not ban Japanese language and culture in Japan. US did not force Japan to use English.  There were other aspects too, for example, China went to communist grip and US was having problem in Korea, so US had to work closely with Japan at that time. The mutual respect between US and Japan helped to move on and to work for mutual benefit. This sort of vision was lacking in Nepal as people are brainwashed to follow the ek-bhasa niti system. The power and synergy of diversity is totally ignored in Nepal. To speak for the power and synergy of diversity in multi-ethnic society is not "defeated mentality", which a Newar often does.

"Why should  I want to be ...... kind of people are exactly the same!"
Before using strong words like "radical extremist", check your judgement. "Radical extremism" does not allow equal right, equal opportunity, diversity, open debate and democracy. "Radical extremist thinking" takes you to authoritarian ruling, no space for people who do not agree with you. Did I ever argue banning Khas language in Nepal? NO. Did I ever argue forceful snatching the power from Khas rulers? NO. In Nepal, Khas rulers dominated all others in the past, which is close to radical extremism. I oppose the unitary domination and I argue we deserve the same respect that my Khas neighbor gets from the nation. I advocate for democratic, and gradual transition. You are not ready to understand this, you don't understand what you are writing, you don't understand what has been changed so far. That is quite typical of you, a typical KTM-Newar that I feel "bicharaa".


"...at least our new generation should think about rising above this caste/ ethnic mentality. We should learn to respect each other and cherish each other's culture rather than despise each other's. and Yes terobajee, newar (buddhist ) community do not like Shrestha " Sheshya" . ...,"
This is classic example of inconsistency with you, as you talk about rising above the cast/ethnic mentality. But as soon as you got a chance, you enjoy bashing some other newar caste/group. The most interesting point to observe is that you get padded by khas people for doing that. Well, I close my eye.

"Being newar I have pointed out few flaws that exists in our community, if not we who else will rectify that? god knows! Tomorrow, if my bramhin friend points out some flaws in his community, next day a tamang friend and so on  then this will  help unite us. This will teach us how to be recpetive and humble -not radical, racist and extremist. Each of our community has some flaws and great potential, lets remove the flaws first and move ahead. This is all I have to day"
It is good to point our flaws and correct them. I have fought hard against the caste-discrimination in Newars. My grandfather did not allow me to join Guthi because I ate tea at a Jogi's home. He did not like my Naay friends. He thought I should not learn hitting metal at Kau's Jyasah. I was not allowed to seat in Bhajan falchaa, I was not allowed to touch Chhatra, but I continued my way of correction. I know how hard it was to fight with your own flaws.  Today, I feel we are in better position. We need to begin improving from ourselves, but we don't need to demoralize ourselves and make a subject of fun in the name of pointing out our flaws. Like us, many others do have problem, which all need correction by increasing awareness not by excluding or alienating them from the mainstream system. We need demanding our right that we deserve with unitary-khas-rulers as much as we need improving ourselves from inside.

I agree with some of the guys point. Nepal ma ho sabai ,politics dhekhi liyera administration sabai ma khas bhasa ko majority chha. Aba tyo thauma Newar haru chhaina bhanera chhetri bhaun ley Newar lai certain seat secure garnu parney hola?Ani arko kura sabai Newar saathi haru lai thaha nai chha Nepal ko sabai Business ma ta Newar kai dominace chha aba hami chhetri bahun Nepal ko police, army ko jagir khayera basna sakdainau so hamilai  ni business garna dinu paryo???Average KTM ko newar haru ko econmic standard average Nepali ko bhanda mathi chha.
Yesto jaat bhaat ko kura dhekhera ta malai lagchha P.N shah ley Nepali unify garnu hunthena ani aja Nepal ni hunthena probably we might be speaking Hindi or chinese?

terobaje,

I do not prefer commenting on personal relations but you brought it here. I feel sorry for you to get tied with a girl from the most racist community. Well, don't take it seriously hai.

Many khas shrimaans of newar girl proudly mention that they have married a newar girl and know both culture, but I have never read a newar shrimaans announcing that he has married with a khas-girl and know the culture. One may think, may be the newar dude is racist, but then how did he marry a khas-girl? or, is there some other reason? An intercomparison study of khas-shrimaan+Newar-shrimati and Khas-shrimati+Newar-shrimaan could be an interesting research issue.

Although you did not mention clearly, it seems to me, you are accepted by your in-laws. My relative (uncle), who married a khas girl, has never made a chance to visit his in-laws. I don't want to generalize these individual experiences because there could be many reasons behind the acceptance and rejection. However, think about the change in your life in case your in-laws had refused you. Your in-laws community is the most racist for you besides accepting you right? That shows what a true-you are.

"WILL BURN A TOWN IF A NEWAR OF A HIGHER CASTE MARRY A NEWAR OF LOWER CASTE......Dangol (jyapu) will never be allowed to marry a (shahi) kasai.......most newars dont like SHRESTHA cast.."
This statement is "poisonous" at best and exaggerated beyond the proportion otherwise. I have friends married-intercast among Newars and living happily, with full-social acceptance. Some of them are nakarmi-maharjan, shrestha-manandhar, shrestha-bajracharya, dongol-bajracharya, rajopadhyay-shrestha, maharjan-tuladhar, shahi-shrestha, byanjyankaar-amatya, shrestha-rajthalaa. Guthi in my tole has accepted girls from maharjan, shakya, darshandhari, maali, shrestha, rajbhandari, pradhan, pradhanang, suwal, manandhar. Some parents may not accept inter-cast, but the words like "burning a town" is totally unfounded. The intercast marriage was there in Newar community since a long time ago. In fact, the famous song Rajamati, Nepal's first official national anthem (well I feel funny to write this) presented in UK by JB Rana, also indicates this despite having hard-time to get accepted by the society.

"I hate this caste system caste in Nepal  my  caste is considered Upperclass, but in Newar community Im a Khe thats it KHE !! it cracks me up though, anyone know that Newars call us KHE? "
Could you elaborate why should it crack you up when a newar use his linguist word "Khay" representing "Khas" speaking people, that includes chettri like you? It is as simple as you calling my "newarni" wife. Although you say, you hate caste system, but you are still mentioning your upperclass position here, he he, pretty double standard, dude.

"we dont let this cast thing come between us, Nepal should abolish cast system"
That is good statement. FYI, more than 36 different societies of Newar caste, like Jyapu Samaj, Pun Samaj, Chhipaa Samaaj, Syasyah samaaj, etc. etc. came together and declared that the cast division of Jayasthiti Malla is nullified. Upper and lower Newar castes are not officially acceptable from now on. It might take sometime to witness widespread adoption of this declaration, but I am highly hopeful. Soon, there is going to be a giant Jhwoh bhoye where all caste people will seat and eat together without any caste-discrimination.

Sidster,

"...how much racist they are among themselves"
mind-blowing, isn't it? Feel the hate and anger when someone demands equal right and deserving respect, that is amazing.

"When i was in pokhara.... thukne kaam" matra ho."
Exactly, that is why I said, every society has their own ways to derrogate others, which some friends do not understand.

"Outsid of this i have a quick question .... in Newari???"
Very important question indeed. Honestly, I don't expect an answer of your question from the people who feel embarrassed to speak their own language in public.

"This may not apply to all ...probably that guy."
I started learning Newar language in my teens. It does not apply to me.

Bigrekoketo,

"I agree with some ..... garnu parney hola? "
pad ra aarakshyan ko kuro haina, system ko kuro ho. System nai pakshyapaati chha, tesaile pad haru maa yesto unbalance dekhiyeko ho.

"Ani arko kura sabai Newar ......average Nepali ko bhanda mathi chha."
KTM ko ghar jagga ko bhau badheko le matra testo dekhiyeko jasto lagchha, Averagema kuraa garna janaganaa ko tathyanka agadi rakhera kura garnu parchha, yesai hawaama handine kaam nagaram bro.

"Yesto jaat bhaat ko kura ...... speaking Hindi or chinese?"
Bhavanaa maa bagera byabharik samasyaa samadhan hudaina. PN Shah le gareka kaam ko ramro naramro dubai mulyankan nispakchhya bhaye ramro hunchha. kasaile PN Shah lai mahan ekikarankarta, rastranaayak, deutaa bhanera uchaalne, kasaile PN Shah lai aatankakari, hamalaakaari, lutera, dhokhebaaj, atyachaari bhanera saraapne, yesto dubai atibaadi sochaaimaa aljhinu hudaina.

चना तरकारी जी को यो विचार  चाही मलाई राम्रो लग्यो है , नेपाल मा बोलिने भाषा हरु नेपाली भाषा हो तेसकारण नेवारी भाषा छैन, त्यो बस्ताब मा नेपाली भाषा हो
एउटा अर्को निबेदन छ चना तरकारी जी लाइ,  नेवार साथी हरु अली अली चलाख पनि हुन पर्यो , कम से कम खस् बाट त केहि सिक्नुस, जसरि खस् हरु ले आफु लाइ "खस्" भन्न छाडेर नेपाली भन्न थाले तपैहरु पनि आफु लै नेवार भन्न छाडेर नेपाली भन्न थाल्नुस , त्यो फेस  बुक को नेवारी सब्द लाइ "नेपाल"  सब्द ले हटाउने अभियान जसले सुरु गर्न भा छ वहा हरु धन्यवाद को पात्र हुनु हुन्छ. तपाई हरु लाइ मेरो एउटा अनुरोध छ अब "नेवार" सब्द लाइ    हटाएर "नेपाली"  सब्दलाइ राख्ने अभियान पनि थाल्नुस कुरै खत्तम, "खस्"  नेपाली मा परिबर्तन हुदा उनीहरु लै केहि फरक पर्या छैन भने तपाई हरु लाइ पनि "नेवार" बाट "नेपाली"  मा परिबर्तन हुदा के फरक पर्ला र.  तेस्को लागि पनि अर्को सिद्धि दास जस्तै कबी जन्मन पर्छा  कि ?

Chana tarkari,

"System nai pakshyapaati chha"

Saathi system pakshyapaati haina natabadi chha. Timiley Nepal ma khas haruko sthihi ramro sanga hera ani Kura gara. nepal ko system ley ghus khana ani afno daju bhai lai tanna sikauchha jaat lai hoina. Khas haru sabai minister huda sabai chhetri bahun ko econmic standard ramro hunu parney khai sabai army police ko jagir khayera baseka  chhan.

"Averagema kuraa garna janaganaa ko tathyanka agadi rakhera kura garnu "
Ho mailey ni tehi bhanya average ma kura gara. Rukum, rolpa, surket  ani aru durlam tira jau ani chhetri bahun ko stihi hera. Rai, gurung baru UK gatera dhani bahi sakya chhetri bahun ho halaat ustai chha.

"PN Shah le gareka kaam ko ramro naramro dubai mulyankan nispakchhya bhaye ramro hunchha.
haha saathi k garnu P. N shah lai naramro bhannu pari halyo ni afnoraja ley testo thulo kaam garna sakenan. Bichara Malla raja haru KTM chodera bahira kailey gayeka thiyenan hola.
 

Chana_tarkari, I could not stop putting some words again. I am sorry again since my comment is little off from your original post. Do you know what was the national source of income during Jaya Prakash malla's time in a small state like KTm ? He abolished the system of having private lands. He imposed heavy tax on people. Because of such incidents people in ktm were very upset with him. So, PN Shah was invited to attack KTM by Newar people. Do you know, gorkhali annexed KTM without bloodshed (only one nagarkoti soldier was killed). He only fought with Bhaktapur. As promised, he returned all the lands to previous owner. Made guthis of newar more systematized, did not interfere on any traditional rite of ktm people. Since, ktm was won by Shah, newari cultures are still alive. The end of malla regime was inevitable anyhow because it was a weak state in the era of sword. If not PN Shah would be someone else. Can you imgine if any muslim king of adjoining bengal had won ktm what would be the condition of newars and ktm?? So, stop blame game.

And regarding bhasa, a state authorized language is one used by majority of population. It's not only in nepal but everywhere. I do not believe Newars are underprivileged because of PN Shah's annexation. Rather, it opened new destinations for them to trade and do business all over nepal. And you can see a lot of Newar people in strong and powerful political position since Shah regime (even in rana's rule). Despite blaming anyone and past, join politics and do right things. Change system. We are here to support you, not everyone is jaundiced by racism.

Bigrekoketo,

"Timiley Nepal ma khas haruko sthihi ... army police ko jagir khayera baseka  chhan"

desh nai oralo lagda khas matrai ukalo lagdaina, lagena. khas netaharule desh ukalo lagauna chahena. Ranale jasari sarvasadharanlai shikhya diyo bhane shashan tikauna sakinna bhanera deshlai andhakaarma raakhe, tesari nai sabailai samaan adhikaar dida khaipai aayeko subidha gumchha bhanera ekadhikarbadi-niti ladyo. Faida uthaunele uthaye, duurdaraajmaa parekaharule dukha payeko sacho ho.

"Ho mailey ni tehi bhanya average ma kura gara. Rukum, rolpa, surket  ani aru durlam tira jau ani chhetri bahun ko stihi hera. Rai, gurung baru UK gatera dhani bahi sakya chhetri bahun ho halaat ustai chha."
bidesh gayera dhani bane bhanne kuro pachena, tesko pachhadi thulo shadayantra thiyo, sathi le tyo kuro thaha paune kasta garnus. desh bharikaa chuniyekaa netaaharu bikaas ko paisa jammai KTM ma khanaaune, ani jillatira bikaash bhayena bhanera kahaan hunchha? Madhav Nepal le ghar banayepachhi Koteswor kati bikash bhayo, Khadga Oli le ghar bhayepachhi kaushaltar-baalkot kati bikaas bhayo? tyo areako raithane lai sodhyo bhane chharlanga hunchha. tara Madhav Nepal va Kp Oli le mero ghar bhayeko thauma bikas gar deu bhaneko holaa ta? shayed hoina holaa, unkaa chaakadibaaj haru tentermenter garera unlai khushi parna khojdakhojdai testo huna gayo holaa. Jillabaasiharule KTMma gharkhet jodekaalai jilla ko rajniti garna nished garidinos ta, ani hernos katro kranti hunechha deshmaa, tapaiharu pani testai, KTM basera rajniti garne netako pachhi pachhi matrai kudne, ani KTM sita daah garera k faidaa?

"haha saathi k garnu P. N shah lai naramro bhannu pari halyo ni afnoraja ley testo thulo kaam garna sakenan. Bichara Malla raja haru KTM chodera bahira kailey gayeka thiyenan hola."
yehi ho "myaau" gareko. Malla raja pani KTM ka raithane hoinan, tinerule pani Lichchhavilai dhapayekai ho. PN Shah le Mallalai dhapaaye. Ahile Koirala-Nepal-Dahal le Shah dhapaye. Tara Malla le janata ra desh ko nimitta jati kaam gare, Shah le garenan. Malla le KTM chhodera chodera bahira gayena bhanera tapaile sochda tapaisita itihas adhyayan ko kami rahechha bhanne thaha lagyo.

Malla Kings gave temples and erected their statues for people. They divided states for their kins, 3 valley states for sons and Banepa, dolakha for daughters.

Shah at least gave us identity and swabhiman. Tara tyo pani gayo aba prajatantra ko nam ma. SWABHIMAN CHAINA KEHI CHAINA. yehi swabhiman nabhaera nai ho pasa aaj desh ko halat tai tai fisss bhako !!!!

Chana tarkari,
   Sarai majjako kura garnu bhayo, Tapaijasto manchey ta Nepal ma chunab ma utnu mantri padkaunu hunchha. Kesab sthapit ma sarai ramro kura garhtyo KTm lai singapore banuchhu bhanthyo bichara ghar sabai bhatkayo pachi manchey bepattabho. Raghuji panta pani lalitpur tira ko Bikash ma lageko chha. sathi lai khas ko ramro pravab pareko rahechha.

Nalapani,

I think, this issue is little bit off-topic here. JP Malla was not popular due to several reasons, some were his bad policies, some were his own enemies from his family (his wife was against him, who helped PN Shah, and was later killed), and some were bad-luck of him. He also faced armed revolt, and had lost power several times. Because of all those adversities, he was a weak king of the time. Also, for the note, I am not saying JP Malla was a good king. I have never written anything comparing JP Malla Vs PN Shah.

The questions like "what would have been if bengal had won, or british had taken or china had captured" are hypothetical. We need to appreciate PN Shah for his good works, and denounce for his wrong doing.

"a state authorized language is one used by majority of population"
Sadly I have to say, this was not the case in Nepal. We have witnessed systematic domination, we have found planned conspiracy to eradicate "matwaali and gair-khas bhasha". There are recovered documentations mentioning "jaali fatahaaharuko bhasha namasyaa samma ....", which you may get a copy from the university library doing research on Nepal's history.

"I do not believe Newars are underprivileged"
Compared to others, Newars had enjoyed some privilege. However, Newars do have their woes and hurts that come out at times.

"Despite blaming anyone and past, join politics and do right things. Change system. We are here to support you, not everyone is jaundiced by racism."
Well, thank you for suggesting joining politics. I will keep watching the footsteps of seniors for now, who have been there already.

timi_mero_sathi,

thank you for a nice suggestion. Siddhidas jastai kavi janmanai parne ta hoina holaa, tara tapaile bhanejasto abhiyaan shuru hune sambhavana bhane chha hai.

I do not need to put lot of words, Chana. All you know is Balkot and Kausaultar lol..sheer lack of KTM geography-both area you mentioned are primarily agriculture land owned by newars and are flat not hill part. you do not have any idead about what castes lives where. About thimi bhaktapur go there you will still see hell lot of people shiting on a land early morining. Your ignorance is understandable.

Shantipriya,
You did not mention the name of that Tamang basti, I would be interested to overlay a 6-miles radii circle centering Ason/Indrachowk and see if indeed there is an outlier. About thimi bhaktapur, where do they shit early morning in the core-area? Can you write me the name of the tole, nearby monument or any such identifiable location where you see those early morning activities? I will verify with the ground truth information. I am not talking about newly developed region where the sewage infrastructure are not done yet.

Why only Thimi, if you go to sanagaun sidhhipur, 10-12 Km from lagankhel story is no different. improve you knowledge prove me wrong!

Shantipriya,

In 1994, I had visited outskirts (similar areas you have highlighted in the above picture) of Sanagau, Thimi, Panga and Lele. In the picture, the white block right north of the highlighted area is a newly constructed hospital. It was also a public area called Mye-Dofo when I visited the area. My visit was a part of Dutch funded project studying possibility of recycling solid waste to manufacture high-quality manure for organic farming. Theoritically, the human/animal waste are valuable collectible for sustainable solid waste management. We did a survey on how much collectible waste is dumped there on regular basis. The good quality waste does not stink, that is the principal of waste-collection and recycle business. The plan was to systematically collect the waste and establish an organic manure manufacturing plant. This project was abandoned because we were unable to ensure constant supply of good quality human/animal waste convertible to organic manure due to rapid increase of domestic toilet construction, which would make the plan economically unfeasible. That conclusion was found true in 2005, as there were more than 70% houses equipped with in-house toilets, and by now, almost all houses have one. The toilets are mostly connected directly to sewere, without separating black, grey and white waste that are not useful for the economically attractive organic manure production.

Besides being familiar with the area and local habit, I learnt several important aspects of traditional waste-management system. The Dutch advisor, a professor at Dutch University told that Nepalese people were already doing the organic waste recycling in principal, you just needed a system to make it an industry. He was amazed to see local farmers collecting dried human/animal waste using buffalo-ribs, which were mixed with straw-dust+hay+ash, etc. and then used in farm as manure. The process of collection, drying up, improving, packing and distribution, that was the major phase of the industry, which was there already in their traditional practice. Having open land for waste collection at the outskirt of dense settlement, and closely located farm area was one of the most efficient and hygeniec waste-recycling method. To have an entire society following it strictly and in a form of tradition was an amazing observation for the Dutch expert. I am mentioning all these details to tell that these open lands were not actually bad-practice, but were truly sustainable and efficient recycling system that worked for several centuries. We were not told all the aspects of its benefit and we needed some foreigners to open up our eyes to see how our system had worked flawlessly for so many years.

Now, after rapid urban growth, should they stay the same way? No. because the farms have diminished and traditional work-habits are changed. Hence, you see other uses of these lands, such as the newly constructed hospital. These land are not for open-air defecation. Some areas are dirty due to uncovered sewage and waste dumping. Some areas are publicly used area. Also, there are plenty of new constructions, and influx of people (labors, travellers, passerby etc.), who might have used the area to urinate/defecate when they were in trouble, just like people urinate the sidewall of Narayahiti Palace while standing in line for passport application. So, I won't be surprised to see the area dirty, but I don't believe you will still see hell lot of people shiting on a land early morining as you have claimed.

By the way, I just asked a friend from the same area online. He told me, this area is now protected for a park-developement. People use it for morning-walk purpose. All surrounding area is crowded with newly constructed houses. I would love to see an updated picture if possible. That one is updated by Google last year.