a +2 graduate comes to the States, finishes undergrad and gradschool (if any), then starts OPT, extends OPT, then starts working on H1B if possible, if not applies for asylum. this is the route a typical college student seems to follow based on my perception of the threads here on sajha. but why? why are people so much obssessed with america and fear having to return back to Nepal? you guys might call me "bado aayo deshbhakta", "nautanki" and so on but think carefully, the sole purpose of you coming to the States is to gain education and go back to Nepal. khali paisa ra sukha ko matra pachhi lagera bhayena. america chhirepachhi nepal farkina chahi marejo jasto garne, ani sajhama basera netaharule desh bigare, ghus khayera desh garib banaye, historical arms/ammunitions indialai beche, desh pani bechna ber chhaina, etc jasta kura garne? suhayena! 

yesto deshko barema chaso rakhne manchheharu ta nepal farkera kaam garnuparchha ni! sabai kura matra garne bhayera kehi kaam nabhayeko ho. tai raani, mai raani kasle bharchha kuwako paani bhaneko jasto bhayo ni yo ta! aafule nagare ni hunchha, aru chhan garne bhanne sochai liyera bhayena. yaha padhna aayeka/kaam garna aayeka manchheharu sadhai yahako dollar ra sukha-subidhama naharaai aafno padhai/kaam sakera nepal farkera tyahi aafno sip lagaye kaso hola?

la sajhaites ho, dhamadham comment hanna thale hunchha.
FYI: fohori sabda, jaat-paat, tarai-pahad, etc jasta kura chahi taadhai rakham hola.

jai nepal

Sorry. I went to the micro level telling one of my stories and I thought you wanted me to look a the bigger picture...

jhilke and som bro: it all depends on you, it's not something that automatically happens. it's how you turn things and make them happen.
poon hill: what is this "big picture" you are talking about? enlighten me.

Kanchho like i said i'll let you figure out yourself. I don't have the energy to go through again and again. Good luck....hats off to your topic, it was worth discussing

 Accumulating $100-$200K? haha thats a big joke, no matter how much you make, having $200K in a few years in your bank is next to impossible, unless you earn $100K a year and live in a dump, eat beans and rice everyday. even then you will make $200K in 4 years. Best of luck.  

बिद्यार्थी भएर छिरे अनी धेरै जसोका बाउ आमा हरुको इच्छा देस नफर्कियोस भन्ने छ , तथ्यान्कले के भन्छ तर मुङ्लान छिरे पछी कि त हस्तिनापुरको राज कि त चपरिमुनिको बास हुइन्छ।
तपाईं कुन श्रेणिमा पर्नु भयो ?
हरियो पत्ता, जागिर भए पछी फर्किने बाध्यता नै भएन तेसैले बसे .
कलेज सिद्धियो,OPT पनि सिद्धियो नेपालबाट ल्याएको पैसा पनि जोगाड भएको छैन जती दिन बित्दै जान्छ तेतीनै भासिदै जान्छ।
हामी के डिग्री लिएर आयो भन्दा पनि कती हरियो नोट को खोजिमा हुन्छौ । 
 त्यो पनि नभए पछी तोकसो गरी हाल्छौ " कुकुरालाई घिउ नपचेको " ।
बिदेस जानेको होडमा सान्सद पनि छन , मेक्सिको बाट अमेरिका छिर्ने ५-६ जना नेपाली भएको खबर एही साझामा थियो भने
 हामी बिदेस पुगेका किन फर्किने ?

 डाक्टर बाबु, कुर त तोम्रो रसिलोनै हो तर कुरा के भने - eDv सात सात पटक भरेर बल्ल बल्ल परेर आएक मान्छे लाई तिमीले सिधै एब्बुसे मा हाल्यो नि त बा।।।। बिद्यार्थी को सबल्मा तिमीले भनेका कुरा पनि राम्रै हुन इङीनेर, डाक्टर पथ्नेने ले नेपाल मै पनि राम्री हरियो घाश उमारेका च्न अनी अर्को कुरा ! ए बा बा ।।।। एउटा जबो कगज को लागि जियन्नै फलेर १० १० बर्षा बितौनु पनी राम्रो त होइन म समर्थन गर्छु यो कुर लाई बुदो हुने बेलास्म्मा कगज कुरेर बस्यो अनी पशुपती नाथ  जाने बेलामा नेपाल सम्जेर हुन्छ? म त ५० कटिसकेकालाई ग्यस स्टेसोन र् ट्याक्सी छोडेर नेपाल नै गएर कालिमाटी म तरकारी बेचे हुन्छ भन्छु  कम्सेकम त्यता ९११ भयो भने पनि टेकु त नजिकै छ ! एता त कहाँ लएर फाल्छ था छैन? 

ससुरो बा को कुरो सारै मन्पर्यो नि

poon hill, let's hope i'll figure out the big picture you are talking about but i'm used to looking at bigger picture with better results, just saying
dissident, what if i'm able to do that? see, this is the difference - you give up before you even try, that's why things don't seem to work in Nepal. This is how i think "there's nothing to lose, let's give it a try because it's worth it"

bhojpure: tyahi kuro ta bhairaheko chha yaha, arule yesto gare usto gare ko pachhi lagera nai sabai kura bigreko ho, aba sudharnuparyo bhaneko. ajhai pani aru yaha aayera baschhan, ma chahi kina farkinu bhanera basirakha. also, yedi tyastai sochai chha bhane, farkera nepal jane pani ta chhan ni, tiniharuko siko chahi kina gardainau? 

sasura baa: 50 kateka matra gayera k garne? 30, 40 ka kina najane? 50 kateka le jati garna sakchhan, 30-40 ka le tyo bhanda dobbar garna sakchhan baaje, kuro bujhnubhayo? padhyo, sikyo, 50-60 nahunlek yaha kaam garera paisa kamayo, ani marne belama matra mero desh, pahsupati naath bhandai nepal kina farkinu? kunai auchityanai rahena ni! ma padhai sakne, 2-4 barsa kaam garera halka daam kamaune, ani jaane nepal, utai gayera suru garne

"padhai sakne, 2-4 barsa kaam garera halka daam kamaune, ani jaane nepal, utai gayera suru garne" is the same sentece I used to say when I was goign to school.  2-4  yrs ko kam is the next thing you can do. Once you get that, you want more than that. Nepal jane ho bhane ahile nai jau ya padai sakera jau Bholi bholi nabhana...Ani arko kura Dr. timi Nepal gako din malai pani bhannu ...timi sachikai nepal gayo bhane ma pani janchu

Jaya Bholi!!!!!!

 हुन त उमेर को k कुरा  भो र बाबु तैपनी ५० नघेकले न घण्टा हान्न सक्छन न त ँँंँ हान्न सक्छन? अनी किन बस्नु न एहा ? ल तिमीहरु नै जान्ने चौ जे गर्छौ गर....yo doctor ghara kahile jancha mali kabar garnu ni.... ek patak jachaunu  cha mali....

 If you don't have a solid financial background or political ties, it'll be an idiotic move to abandon your pursuit of living the 'American life'. 

I few of my closest friends went back home after their MBA, some even went back after Bachelor's but they all had great financial backgrounds (their parents were corporate heads, possessed more 30 crore of wealth and had good ties with police and politicians). 

If you come from a mediocre family, what the hell are you going to do with your MBA, P.HD. or Master's Degree? I know some smartass is gonna come forward and say "qualified people can survive anywhere" but lets get real, if you're an Engineer, what will you do when you come across dire situation of Nepal that is still using outdated tools and machines? 

No point boasting your patriotism. Think of yourself first and then think about the nation. Just because you don't live in Nepal doesn't make you less patriotic. 

के कुर गर्छ हौ सोल्ती , अमेरिका आउन लाई डि।भि भर्दा भर्दा हत्तु परेको मान्छे बल्ल बल्ल परेको डि.भि छाडेर कोही जाला त? स्टुडेन्ट बनेर आउने हरु चै जानु पर्छ हो। तिनी हरु लाई त फर्किनु पर्छ भन्ने सर्त म पो विस देको त यताइ लुक्न त होइन नि! किन नेपाल फर्किदैन भन्ने कुर त अब हेर न सोल्ती सब नेता हरु पये सम्मा यताइ लुक्नु खोज्छ!! तिमी ke कुरा गर्छ अम्रिका बल्ल बल्ल आको छ फर्केर के गर्छौ हो। जागिर सागिर नि पौदेन !! लास्त तेन्सिओन हुन्छ के २-४मैना पछी तिमी आँफै रुन थालछ फोक्कत म फर्कियो भनेर , बेलाइमा सोच हौ solta!!!

k yo kahile natungine kura ma discuss gari ra hola.

if you want to go , go, if you want to stay , stay. major decision like this is a personal matter and can n't be a mass decision. personally, i love America and the freedom here including the opporutinies. i can eat lunch outside everyday and shower and call 911 if someone plays loud music in my neighborhood. In Nepal i hear people getting robbed and thives breaking into houses everyday. It's my personal decision to stay and i don't give a rats arse on what you or others tell me to do, so stop this nonsense. i have met some people , specially neta ko baccha they went back with university of phoenix degrees and got director posts in ngos.. fk... i don't want to make a difference. my own family went back in 1950s hoping to make better and they were reduculed in the society for coming back and with all the education and experience they were bullied by some illetrate potiticans. 
fk this nonsense.. if you want to go , go ... go tommorw , go right now.. i dont care.. don't tell me to go..

 @kalopani, u r right somehow.But I guess,75% bhanda mathi hami haru ma yo dillema 6. yo dillema 3-4 yrs america base pachhi sabaima au6. So cool down.Afaile gayera khi garchhu bhanne soch ani specific plan nabhaikan nepal nagaye hunchha. Ra jasle tyo soch linchha tyo manchhe le SAJHA ma yasto post gardai basdaina. I am still unqulified to return back. JAI HOS..................

I want to know First when is dr kancho returning back, I think he iz Nephro guy we need back, we need Fellowship system bro

nepal jau, tara jeevan ko antim chan ma marna lai matra jao..
ki nepal ka kubbuddhi neta haru sab marey pachi jao..
ahiley gayera timi harulai kehi garna diney wala chainan tini haru ley..

There is a saying, "If you are not part of the solution, then you are part of the problem."

For many Nepalese without a lot of power, money and connections, going back to Nepal seems akin to being part of the problem.

I think there are many Nepalese who have their heart in the right place. They WANT to sacrifice and do something for their country. But at the same time, they don't want to be turned into the 'sacrificial goats of Dakchhin Kali' because of their good intention.

Many Nepalese want to do something positive for Nepal. But many feel that going to Nepal to do that good by taking time away from a good career, stability and education for their kids is a huge and unnecessary risk that is prone for dissappointment. It takes a lot of power, money and connections in Nepal for good intention to translate into positive results. Most Nepalese don't have this kind of power, money and connections.

I think many Nepalese with a good life in America are simply being realistic about where they stand. They try to do what they can from the strong position that they have in America rather than sentimentally and voluntarrily exchanging it for a weaker position in Nepal....with the risk of having nothing to show for it in their old age.

I think that if there was a way to guarantee and show that...if Nepalese left their strong circumstance in America and went back to Nepal, the sacrifice that they would be making would be worth it, then more Nepalese would go back to Nepal. More Nepalese would give a lot more for Nepal than they are giving today. But who can make this kind of guarantee?

डा साप: कुरो सबले ठुलै गर्छन् क्या!! तिमी अहिले के गर्दैछौ र कहिले फर्कौन्छौ ? फर्किने दिन मा एक तर्फी टिकट स्क्यान गरेर पोस्ट गर अनी पत्याउला तिम्रो कुरा | ल त्यही दिन तिमी सँगै म नि हिड्छु|

ससुरा बाको कुरा शाहरै घत लाग्यो तर छोरी खोइ कहिले तह ल्गाउने त, अफु चाँही पैसा कमएर छोरीको लागि भनेर अली अली बाचाएर नेपाल जौ भनेको छोरी चै अर्कैको कुकुने समतेर बस्द पनि केही नदेखेको जस्तो गर्ने ! बदो फसाद पो पर्‍यो बा! अब घर फर्किने भन्दा पनि हजुरको छोरी को झत्केलो सँग रस्स कस्स्सी पर्ने, न्फर्कौ भने ससुर बाले फर्क फर्क भन्ने, के गरौ ससुर बा???