Hey guys!! What do u think about cloning in general and Reproductive (esp. Human) cloning in particular? I think with the available technology u can clone a human? How about cloning Bill Clinton, Mandela or in the other hand cloning Bin Laden, Bush. May be we can think about cloning GBBS, Paras, Prachanda, GP and MKN and of course our great PM SBD????? Well, cloning them would be worthy in any sense?

Note: I don't know if this topic is being discussed before in Sajha!



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ahah... Lady being photocopied?? eheh... Different Different model ko hola ni, like barbie doll.. LOL... Lady in jeans, lady in scuba divin' costume (whatever it's called ... slacks?? ehehe), lady in shorts, lady in PJ, lady in Kurta Suruwal... wowow... :D

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LAu jaaaa.. hahahahha...
Looks like i really ticked u off Lady. I read almost everyone's thread, and that includes you as well except perhaps, longgggggggg political discussions. And about my mission to MAkE you reply to me, well what can i say about that. If you see it that way, be my guest. *Smiles*.

About following you in SAJHA, (LOL),... Now sajha ain't as big as i would like it to be, so we happen to bump in to each other like you & i bump in to many others. I never knew that you had to work on to refusing to acknowledge me after talking to me for SUM days, SUM mths ago. I am sorry to have forced you to reply to my comments. :) Its just that i never took the stuffs written here personally, and did not EVER thought that one makes a psychological notes about talking to certain person or not. Hehe maaf pau :). Please do not bother to waste ur energy in ignoring infected CHROMOSOME.

I as well regret that my words did not fawn your gigantic ego. I accept it was imprudent of me and i should have been fawning towards you.

On to the more serious note, I would say it would be puerile of us to push the matter further. And i take back my comments regarding you, in my previous threads as well as apologizing for considerably hurting your sentiments.

And if we happen to cross our paths :) please consider that my obsession or passion ( as YOU might LIKE to believe) has nothing to do with me stalking you in every thread. Sano community ma sano space ma, kahile kahi thokki halincha :), anyetha nasochi dinu hola.

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IndisGuise:)

I support stem cell research. Actually, this was one of the questions I made for the Harvard MUN slection committee at my school.. (hehe.. la maile ni di halya.. graduate student bhaye pachi arkai moj.. ani those who supported my view were given 19 out of 20.. and many of them are going to Boston MUN later this year.. and one of the dicussion questoion will be stem cells research.. :-) ).. If stem cell research will save many lives, why not..Recently read an article on the Guardian about a Chinese doc. who is doing it and helping people with spinal injuries. I mean, if it helps people to get back on their feet, I am for it. Religious, cultural this and that are not much of concern. Abortion garna huney, stem cells research garna nahuney?

later= Feb. this year

Iffyyy,
Ya got it right. I am not against the whole research.
Quoting sumone frm above, I just wanted to say that we should not play God.There should be certain limitations and rules as to what the researchers should be allowed to do or not.

Ani jhuto bolna laj lagdai na. Asti chai you gave points to the most beautiful one bhanya ! :p:p:p Many are going re? I thought only the winner !! :0 !

lady,

aren't we already playing God by killing people? If we can kill people, why not have stem cells research?

What is the big deal about cloning? Nothing, its just the process of making children who have the same genetic code as someone else. The horror! I guess we should ban identical twins too! They obviously are inferior because they cannot have a distinct identity

I don't see why wanting a copy of yourself is any more selfish than getting pissed when your child turns out to have been fathered by another man.

But the real point is that cloning will never be a big deal, so it is silly to worry about it. You cannot build a better society with cloning. You just get the same thing over and over again (which would make an interesting experiment to see whether man's progress is a function of discovering more of what are brains can comprehend or if we can actually comprehend more than we once could, since you have the same stock of brain generation after generation). For clones to take over you have to assume that a society would be willing to give up having sex, which is highly unlikely, and if that happened, that it would have some sort of advantage over other societies, which it wouldn't (a few carefully destructed viri can destroy them all).

The real thing that should be discussed is genetic engeneering.

why aruge on what GOD wants and does not want, when the whole IDeology of GOD can be debated.. This is an issue of Science not of Philosophy.

We are humans, so we decide our own faith. Before doing anything, we just need to know the benifits and harm that is generated by such actions. Hence, Clonning sud be limited, and stem cell research sud be not be abandoned.

Humans are designed to survive in one type of environment on one specific planet. We were made to live on land, drink the water, breathe the air, and be shielded by the atmosphere from the planet Earth...and that is just the start.

Now *eventually* our sun is going to burn out. We dont want to be on the planet in that time period because we will die...the entire planet. In order to get off this planet and be able to live elsewhere, we will have to make drastic changes to our genetics that evolution will not be able to change in time. We will have to adapt to living in space...living in other environments...breathing Co2 instead of O2. Cloning is the baby steps of what is to come in the future, albeit... not for awhile.

Who knows, in a few trillion years...a human from one system might travel to another system and set down on a harsh planet, get into his habitat suit and set out to explore this strange new planet only to be approached by a short, green creature with dark eyes and a muscular frame. Upon a genetic scan, the traveller realizes that the creature is in fact a human that is engineered to suit the planet conditions (short and muscular due to the high gravity, dark eyes to shield from the 3 suns, green chlorophyll skin to convert the CO2 atmosphere into Energy and Oxygen for aerobic cell resparation).

The (very rough) above example is hardly a drop in the bucket of what will be done. Another modification that will be made is life extension. Your ideal lifespan is nothing more than a genetic timer that says "your cells will divide 'X' number of times and then stop." All you have to do is increase the number of X and we will have humans that could live from 150years up to 500 000+ years...just change the amount of times that the cell divides. Wild Shit, huh ????

After wrapping your head around what IS going to happen....Cloning will seem like not such a big deal.

And that is why we will clone....because more drastic and mind blowing genetic manipulation will happen.