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Nepe
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Posted on 09-14-05 2:12
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Friends, Coming Friday's Pro-democracy Rally in NY is, in every sense, Diaspora's equivalent of "Citizen's Movement for Democracy and Peace" in Nepal. What is "Citizen's Movement for Democracy and Peace" ? It is people's saying, "Enough is enough". It's saying, "Enough with King's insuppressible greed for power, enough with political parties' impotency, enough with Maoists' abuse of legitimate political cause to promote anachronistic ideology and violence, and enough with the freaking eternal quagmire they are in." The most important of all, perhaps, it is also saying, "Enough with our own cynicism, apathy and passiveness". Let's take initiative on our own to let ourselves, political powers and the whole world know what we want and how we want, once for all. Let's speak up. That's what "Citizen's movement for democracy and peace" is all about. And damn. It's working. It's already showing its affects everywhere. Common people, through their participation and display to the leaders, poets and artists kind of love and respect never seen before, and the movement, through it's determination to spread it throughout the country no matter what, has already established itself as an ad hoc political leadership until political parties reform enough to reclaim people's trust and thereby popular political leadership to the movement for Loktantra. Let's show up at Dag Hammarskjold Plaza, NY on this Friday to let ourselves and the whole world know our longing for democracy and peace and to make a small but glorious history of how we took time to show our respect and solidarity to activists, professionals, poets, artists and common people rising Nepal ko basti basti baata, gaaun gaaun baata. See you all who are close enough to make it to Dag Hammarskjold Plaza, NYC, 12:00 noon, Friday 16th September 2005. Nepe - http://www.nyrally.org/ - http://samudaya.org/dissent/ Hand of a poet, who probably made a world history by making people loving to buy tickets to listen to his revolutionary poems in Kathmandu !
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Posted on 09-15-05 6:56
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रेडियो दोभानबाट प्रत्यक्ष प्रसारण हुने होला केरे। म कानमा रेडियो राखेर सुत्छु शुक्रबार राती, सुती सुती सुन्न पाइएला जस्तो छ। *** PSC अरु पनि तर्क दिँदै जाम् है।
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Posted on 09-15-05 7:08
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भक्त उवाच: तपैँ हाम्रा गामाँ नि मकरेहुरलाई पुर्ने खाल्टो खन्न पाआ हुन्थो के रे। के अर्नु, तपैँ डाँडा पारी, म डाँडा वारी, बीचाँ जमुनी। दादा उवाच: ती खाल्डो खन्नी हातले गाममा कुवा खने हुँदी, जमुनीले त सुख पाउँदी हो।
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Posted on 09-15-05 7:12
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ए दादा, त्यो दोभान रिँडियो कसरी सुन्नी हो र? *** *** *** *** *** नेपालमा भैरहेको लोकतान्त्रिक आन्दोलनलाई यो उमेश भन्ने साथिले निकै मज्जाले रिपोर्टिङ गरिराखेको रहेछ ल। आजकाल त म साझा डट कम भन्दा पनि पहिला मेरो सन्सार डट कम डट एन पि चेक गर्छु। -http://www.merosansar.com.np केटो पहिले साझामा पनि आउँथ्यो, साथिहरुले ख्याउ ख्याउति पारेर लखेटे। साह्रै सोझो रहेछ केटो, फर्केर आएन। सानदाइ सँग नि ठाक ठुक परेको थियो, ब्लक नै भा'को त पक्कै हैन होला। साथिको लगाब देखेर चुप लागेर बस्न सकिन म त। :) -भउते
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Dada_Giri
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Posted on 09-15-05 7:19
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Bhaute
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Posted on 09-15-05 7:23
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दादा उवाच: ती खाल्डो खन्नी हातले गाममा कुवा खने हुँदी, जमुनीले त सुख पाउँदी हो। *** भउते उवाच: दिन भरि पसिना काढेर, हातमा फोरा उठाएर, भोको पेट कुवा खन्यो, मकरेका पाइक पर्नी ठाममा परे जमुनीलाई नजिकै पर्न नदिनी, टाढै बाट छि: छि: र दुर दुर गर्नी, मौका परे कपालै च्यात्न आउनी, अनि लास्टाँ जमुनी ४ घन्टा ला'र ज्याउदीखोलाँ पानी लिन जान पर्नी। हाम्रा पाइक पर्नी ठामाँ कुवा खन्यो, रात भरि मसानघाटका छौँडा झैँ आ'र कुवा सुवा पुर्दिनी। अनि के काम कुवा खनेर। जमुनी त यसै काकाकुल, उसै काकाकुल। बरु १-२ बर्ख पानी नै नखाइकन भे' नि मकरेलाई खाल्टाँ जाकेर पुरेर माथि सिस्नो रोपेर त्याँसि अनि यैँ तिरतिरेका चौतारियाँ कुवा खन्न पाए त कैलेकाईँ रोदी बस्दा हाम्ले नि मुख भिजाम्न पाईनि, जमुनीलाई नि सुबिस्ता हुनी। :) -भउते
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Nepe
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Posted on 09-15-05 7:30
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PSC, क्या हो, राजावादीहरुले योजना बनाईराखेको स्वागत -याली (reception नै सही) भा भे त्यो चै तर्कसम्मत हुने थियो भन्न खोज्नु भा ? Anyway, I think the rally is absolutely reasonable and it's objectives are absolutely achievable. There are two major objectives of the rally, 1. To show the whole world that Nepali Diaspora rejects the dictatorship of King Gyanendra. 2. To show the whole world that Nepali Diaspora supports fellow Nepali's movement for democracy in Nepal. That's all. Any by the rally itself and the messages of support and solidarity from people, organizations and US politicians, regard this as a done deal. How much will it help to weaken the King and how much to strengthen the movement for democracy is a matter of speculation and for days to come. We are sure about small but positive effect. And we are happy with that. ल मैले नेताजस्तो भाषण पो दिएँ कि क्या ।
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Pade_Queen_no.1
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Posted on 09-15-05 7:32
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Why most of sajhaites love to throw barb at Nepe and Ashu? Whenever these two start a new thread, it can be predicted that abuses abuses abuses are going to come some soon from millions Nepebaiters and Ashubaiters. KINA YASTO animosity?
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Pade_Queen_no.1
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Posted on 09-15-05 7:33
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come some soon = come soon forget the errors
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shree5
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Posted on 09-15-05 8:01
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भउते र दादा, क्यार्नु र, अब उता भउते, यता म, माझाँ जमुनि केरे । अब भउतेले तेहाँ खाल्टो खन्नी त भनेको हुन । तर क्यार्नी, आफूलाई त खाल्टाको भन्दा जमुनिकै बढी चाख लाउनी के खाल्टो भन्दा चईनी जमुनि नै गहिरो , कता हो कता जति तानो उति लामो, चईनि केरे जति खोस्र्यो, उति गहिरो ;) Keep rolling...
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Madness
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Posted on 09-15-05 8:33
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Shree5.....u frm Syngja?....:P just curious....
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shree5
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Posted on 09-15-05 8:55
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not exactly but very close (syangja - both as in name of place and district), whr u from पकलाहा ? keep rolling...
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kick
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Posted on 09-16-05 4:25
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Posted on 09-16-05 4:28
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Nepe and the team, Unreserved support to you from London. Good luck sathiharu
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Posted on 09-16-05 5:54
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Nepe ji, Thanks again for your comments. Tapain le bhasan nai diye pani kunai na kunai hisable chakh lakhdo nai hunchha ra jawaf nelekhi sukhai paudina. I see nothing wrong to organize a reception who so ever organized it to welcome the HOS. After all he was representing Nepal. Those who planned must be appreciated and I am sure they have been disappointed because the King cancelled his visit. Nothing wrong to organize a purposeful protest rally either. There are group of Korean, Japanese, Iranian, American, etc ... who are demonstrating against solid cause in the same area where you guys have also planned to protest. You can gather as much international support as possible to interfere in internal affairs of Nepal, but my request to you is that don't make Nepal as a playing field for them and "Dollar Pachaune Thaun". Don't make Nepal a playing zone for RAW to safeguard Indian national interest. I can't say how much it will help to weaken the King, but it will certainly help weaken the Nepalese pride and it will probably make people of Nepal to suffer more. I didn't get answe that " yo rally Nepal ma prachar gariye jastai UN ko main gate agadinai hunchha ki, 47th 1st Ave ko yeuta kunama"?
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Nepe
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Posted on 09-16-05 6:06
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Kick and friends, I am off to NY in an hour or so. Will convey to the rally your support and solidarity. Thank you for your support !
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wtf
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Posted on 09-16-05 6:11
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Can sumbdy tell me, what wrong/s has our KING done? I'm still shocked and dismayed that the 205 leaders are still breathing !!! Sumbdy: KILL 'EM ALL !!!
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Posted on 09-16-05 6:46
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NY RALLY Donors List: $1M & more Contribution a. Prachhanda aka "U die if u don't support us!" b. GP Koirala c. Sujata Korala [We are still trying to exchange the German currency she contributed] d. Madhav Nepal e. Mrs. Deuba f. All the political party members/ supporters $ Priceless Contribution x. People who's gonna be in the rally, and desperate to prove "How stupid they are." xx. All the hooligans [If you are going to be in the RALLY, please don't try to destroy US Gvt. property! you are not in NEPAL any more] 500 Bottle Water Contribution 1. Mridula Koirala, NY $150 Contribution
1. Subas Pokharel, MD $101 Contribution 1. Mohan Gyawali 2. Rudra Khadka
3. Anil Jung Shahi, NY
$100 Contribution 1. Roger Adhikari, CA
2. Anand Bist, NY 3. Deepak Khadka, NJ
4. Dr. Shyam Dhoj Karki, MD
5. Sanjaya Parajuli, NY 6. Bishwa Shah, NY 7. Pramod Sitaula, NY
8. Suman Raj Timsina, NY
9. Anonymous 10. Anonymous $60 Contribution 1. Nam Lal Shrestha $51 Contribution 1. B.P.Giri, NH 2. Ram Chandra Regmi 3. Krishna Pokharel 4. Khusi R.Tiwari, FL $50 Contribution 1. Bishwo N.Poudel, CA 2. Mukti Sharma, MN 3. Dr. Kamal Upadhyaya, CT $35 Contribution 1. Robin Panday 2. Prithivi Narayan Pradhan $25 Contribution
1. R. Khati $21 Contribution 1. Kishor Bhandari 2. Jagat Khadka
3. Bikal Paudel 4. Khim Nath Sharma $15 Contribution 1.Tika Ram Sapkota
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Nepe
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Posted on 09-16-05 6:52
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PSC, You too stand out among all pro-king posters here for your decency and engaging debate. I do enjoy exchanging with you. And except for some fundamental issue about monarchy, we share similar views in many things. The rally is being held at Dag Hammarskjold Plaza. *** *** *** *** *** wtf, To understand what wrong the King has done, here is a fresh evaluation for International Crisis Group, an influential think tank that governments of many powerful countries respect. - http://www.crisisgroup.org/home/index.cfm?l=1&id=3664 Nepal: Beyond Royal Rule International Crisis Group Asia Briefing N?41 15 September 2005 OVERVIEW Nepal is in turmoil and the monarchy is in question. King Gyanendra had calculated that his authoritarian moves since October 2002 would return order to a land wracked by Maoist insurgency and political instability but he has failed. The seven months since the royal coup have seen security degenerate under a royal government with no plans for peace and democracy. The Maoists seized the initiative by announcing a unilateral three-month ceasefire on 3 September 2005. The international community needs to recognise that its calls for palace/ political party reconciliation as the sole path toward stability are unrealistic. New lines need to be explored, beginning with support for the ceasefire and the tentative dialogue underway between the parties and the Maoists. The king's actions have marked the definitive end of the old status quo. There is no prospect of a stable balance of power between palace and parties. The monarchy retains control of state instruments, crucially the army, but it has alienated other natural allies and prompted swelling republicanism. The Maoists are militarily strong and control much of the countryside but have failed to win popular support. Mainstream parties offer the hope of representative leadership but have lost legitimacy and must make difficult decisions about the monarchy and the Maoists. Civil society is finding a voice but cannot supplant the parties and will struggle to play a decisive role on its own. History may credit Gyanendra for forcing the pace of political developments, albeit not as he had hoped. While endangering the future of the monarchy, the royal coup has prompted a healthy clarification of positions and acted as a catalyst for Maoist-parties dialogue. But there are many dangers. The Maoists are strong and determined, possibly serious about peace talks but also reluctant to give up the advantages they have won through force. The monarchy is weakened and in a corner; as pressure mounts the king, backed by the army, may stage a further, more brutal, crackdown on the mainstream opposition. The political parties' unity is fragile, and they have to reengage with their public while treading a careful line between two armed forces hostile to democracy. The final pattern of the fallout from the royal coup has yet to become clear but some trends are identifiable. The Maoist-parties dialogue has been boosted by the ceasefire announcement. So far it has set modest aims, with no illusions of instant solutions, but it has made some progress on building confidence and developing an agenda. Popular support for a monarchy that has failed to deliver peace or prosperity is declining. Political activists have already been joined on the streets by other protestors, and mainstream dissent will certainly grow. The mainstream parties will have to struggle to regain mass support. The death rate from the conflict has risen, with 1,574 fatalities reported from January 2005 through June and major clashes in the following two months. If the Maoist ceasefire is not reciprocated or does not hold there is potential for further escalation. Meanwhile, both the economic and humanitarian situations have deteriorated. The international community's one-point policy of urging the palace and parties to cooperate was reasonable as long as there were realistic indications they might oblige. However, the king's actions since February 2005 have produced a political sea-change, with moderate parties moving toward a more republican stance and the Maoists urging them to negotiate. Nepal's most influential friends need to engage in a serious rethink. They should: welcome the Maoist ceasefire and urge its indefinite extension, government reciprocity, and that all sides in the conflict seize the opportunity for substantive talks; continue suspension of military aid in order to maintain pressure on the royal government to restore democratic governance and explore all avenues to peace talks; replace the traditional insistence on a constitutional monarchy alongside parliamentary government as the sole path to stability and democracy with an unequivocal focus on democracy -- with or without the king -- and a negotiated peace; work towards better international policy coordination, especially between India, the U.S., the EU and the UN, preferably in the form of a loose contact group; hold a follow-up to the 2002 London International Conference on Nepal, bringing together all major players to chart a course towards a principled, democratic peace and ensure basic unity of purpose; support the UN human rights monitoring mission with money and political backing; and support mainstream, non-violent democratic parties, helping to protect them against attacks from both armed sides and planning for a potentially difficult transition to democracy. There can be no return to the status quo before the 1 February coup. Nor can there now be any easy return to the political institutions of the 1990 constitution. The king has made clear his desire to take Nepal back to the absolute monarchy of the 1960s, while the Maoists insist on moving straight to a constitutional revision process. King Gyanendra's refusal to go back on any of his controversial steps, however many diplomatic exit routes he is offered, has reduced the chance for compromise. The mainstream parties' suspicion of the king's intentions and their consequent willingness to envisage abandoning the monarchy make a palace climb-down risky. The king may yet give in to pressure to reinstate democratic institutions but his instinct is to see out his all-or-nothing gamble. He may find that he has been outflanked by both the Maoists and a resilient political mainstream that still embodies most Nepalis' desire for peace and democracy.
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Posted on 09-16-05 7:29
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Nepe: respect your concern. but what the fcuk was the KING supposed to do?? sit and drink pennyroyal tea?? i'm don know why he did not have all of the NETAs killed !! It's not him who is to blame, and if yes WHY ?? The king's done nuthin wrong !! that is all i know.
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Posted on 09-16-05 7:46
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Nepe ji, I do read almost all ICG report but in most occasion they are one sided. This one seems to be little more unbiased but the rport they right from one sided views can not win the support from all sectors. This report is also more directed towards "all-inclusive" approach. If we descard any "force", that will create more chaos then any lasting solution. Good luck to you. As the day is not that bad may be Mridula's water will not be consumed that much. We have to rely on reports from Nepal as well. I will believe the views of Deepak as they are the one who have seen the situation from field: Maoist ceasefire a strategic ploy: RNA BY DEEPESH DAS SHRESTHA KATHMANDU, Sept 16 - Royal Nepal Army Spokesman Brigadier General Deepak Gurung Friday said that Maoist three-month unilateral truce was a strategy to reorganize and restructure their militants to strengthen their power in the future. Speaking during a press meet at the RNA headquarters in the capital today, Gurung said, "The ceasefire is a ploy. There has been a sharp rise in the abduction of civilians to recruit them as Maoist combatants and their training activities have escalated." He, however, did not elaborate. Gurung claimed that the Maoist move was aimed at preserving their energy and regrouping their forces, adding, "They might get strong after three months so we must be prepared for it." Gurung refuted the claim that army's security operations have intensified after Sept.3?the day Maoists announced a three month unilateral truce with immediate effect. "Such allegation is baseless," he said. "Mobilizing our troops is a part of our regular operations and will be continued in the future too." He also rejected the claim that the RNA security personnel were involved in systematic torture of those held in detention. "The RNA strongly objects to such accusations," said Gurung. "We have been taking action against those found guilty after investigations and if there is a proof no one will be spared." Presenting findings of a weeklong visit to Nepal, Manfred Nowak, special rapporteur of the U.N. Commission on Torture, in a separate program today, said that security personnel systematically practiced torture and ill-treatment of detainees in order to extract confessions and to obtain intelligence. On being asked if the RNA would be confined to the army barracks, if the government reciprocated the truce offer, Gurung said it was for the government to decide. "We are fulfilling our duty as directed by the government and will respect its decision accordingly," said Gurung. During the press meet, Colonel Umesh Kumar Bhattarai informed that 4546 Maoist rebels were killed in security operations after the breakdown of the ceasefire on August 27, 2003. He said 1191 more rebels were suspected killed and 443 others injured during the encounters in various parts of the country. ?Five hundred sixty three security personnel were also killed during the same period," said Bhattarai. Since the declaration of a unilateral ceasefire on Sept.3, the security forces killed four Maoists while one soldier got killed during security actions, he said. ?About 2889 insurgents have surrendered to the local administration since August 27, 2003 and 27 more have been added after Sept.3,? said Bhattarai. Bhattarai said that the recent National Human Rights Commission report indicated the Maoists of being responsible for increasing human rights violations in the country. The report had mentioned that while killings and torture decreased by 90 percent after the unilateral ceasefire announcement, the incidents of abductions have increased. Claiming that the Maoists have been involved in unabated violence despite their truce offer, the RNA also appealed the media persons to flash out Maoists' "double standard" to the outsiders. RNA forms 2 battalions The RNA today informed that it has decided to form two battalions in the Terai and the hilly regions to incorporate indigenous groups to uplift their social standards and enhance their ethnic pride. The battalion formed in the Terai region will focus on Madhesi community while the one in the Hilly region will give priority to various nationalities (Janajatis) of Kirant region.
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