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saroj
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Posted on 05-20-05 10:13
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May 20, 2015 Kathmandu, Nepal Amsterdam Political Press Nepal Celebrates it's Democracy Day Amidst Chaos The fifth anniversary democracy day celebration was marred by the bombs set off in various parts of the capital today. Bombs were deployed in strategic locations such as the District Court of Patan, Kathmandu Nagar Palika and outside of Singha Durbar. The casualties have not been clarified by the government but according to bystanders and witnesses there could have been about 120 dead and about 250 injured in these incidents. Home minister Hom Raj was not available for comments. The Democracy day celebrations planned for the evening however went on without any incidents. The five hour program was held at the Deepak Bista Memorial Hall. Prime Minister Khagendra Thapa was there to precide over the event. During his speech no mention was made of the atrocities which happened earlier today. In retrospect, five years after the trade blockade from US and India which began in May 2005, the will of the people won the autocratic regime resulting in an all out democracy by the people, for the people and to the people. The nation of Nepal finally breathed the air of democracy on May 20, 2010. As predicted by few liberals, the transition period from Monarchy to a Democratic Government was not smooth. As soon as the King stepped down, the different underground parties raised their heads. The same of names resurfaced on the horizon of the newly found democratic government. In spite of the majority disliking the same old names, because of party politics, the Koiralas came back into the political mainstream. Right after the king stepped down, there was so much chaos in the streets and the capital that a curfew had to be slapped for two consecutive months. Despite general popularity within the people of the valley, the army still had loyalty to the royals. The royals leaving the scene to an unspecified location created misplaced loyalties within the army camps and the law makers resulting in an uncertain political and social atmosphere which is believed to have cost over 3,000 lives in the capital alone. Finally when an actual cabinet was formed, they had to start with an emergency rule - restricting press freedom and freedom of movement, which the Prime Minister termed "for the sake of national security and democracy". In fact there was no other way the country could come to a flow of regular life unless these emergency rules were set. As normal flow of life returned, the Maoist problem resurfaced with such intensity that few members of the new government practically had to run for cover to India. In 2013 three ministers of the Nepali government were targeted by the Maoists and a public list was available which cited five more ministers being in the HitList. Those named all decided to take refuge in neighboring India. The Maoist insurgents had created huge bases in the capital itself threatening to overthrow the government. As the social bond grew weaker with Party politics and fight for power, the Maoists have become very strong seeping into the capital. In spite of the democratic movements promises of taking over all parts of Nepal into one democratic country, there was never any attempts even to hold talks with the Maoists. The Maoists were not willing to have talks and the internal politics did not leave room for the decision makers to focus too far from their own bases. After 5 years of democracy today Nepal is a failed state. In a country where the biological and physiological needs of people such as food, drink, shelter, water, etc. has not been met for a huge percentage of people, the ideals of Democracy rarely seeps into fulfilling these needs. The incidents of today throws uncertain doubts in the mind of democracy lovers about the feasibility and practicality of democracy in Nepal. It seems like it's only a matter of time till the Maoist insurgency claim the capital and throws Nepal into another 200 years of communist regime. Signing off Saroj Nepal.
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SaruBhakta-II
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Posted on 05-24-05 12:12
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हे हे हे, हाम्रो नाम पनि मुछिएछ यहाँ अलि अलि भा' नि। न जाने कुनै बेला फुल मन्तरी नपाए पनि बिना बिभागीय सहायक उपमन्तरी पाईने पो हो कि, रे क्या। लु भन दादा, तिम्ले कुन् मन्तरी हुनी। तिम्लाई त नारी तथा रत्नपार्कको छेउछाउ ब्यबस्थापन सहायक उपमन्तरी बनाउन पर्ला जस्तो छ। साथि हरु कति तातो तातो गफ मात्र गरेको यार, कैले काई त चिसो पनि हुम्न यार :P :) -sru
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sardarsing
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Posted on 05-24-05 12:13
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So how do you assume that Nepal will be nothing after the Royals are taken out. Assumption comes from History. History shows that KINGS are not needed anymore for any country to be ruled.
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saroj
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Posted on 05-24-05 12:14
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Newuser le " अव मलाई जति गाली दिनोस , लांछना लगाउनोस मैले वेवास्ता गर्नेछु।" How convenient for you to run away from this discussion when you have no answer to my simple question. (And faced with a few more dissenting posters.) In anycase that question is there for any democracy fighter. Don't get into pages after pages of ideal scenarios. Just the initial transision of power. HOW are you hoping to manage that?
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sardarsing
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Posted on 05-24-05 12:14
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Nepal has been suffering from the Royal Mess for over 200 years. I think the times enough.
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saroj
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Posted on 05-24-05 12:16
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sardarsing, politics is like a love story it's different for everyone. Aru ko swasni ramro chha bhandai ma irshya nagarnu hola :)
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Posted on 05-24-05 8:07
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Looks like I've missed out a lot of action here. Looks like saroj's bomb blast has blown newuser out of this thread. LOL
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Posted on 05-25-05 12:50
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Nepal bhaneko rajtantra chahine desh ho ra yesko mulye ra manyeta pani tetikai cha.........................................nepal raja bin chalna sakdaina jab ke when u are living a egg and ham between two sandwhich bread..........ahile king is acting who can protect the nation...... huna ta ho ne...............je huncha ramro lagi huncha, je hunecha ramro ko lagi hunecha ra je hudai cha ramro ko lagi nai hudai cha............ that means hami nepali bhara bacheka thiyau, pachi ke ta bharati ke ta chinese bhara bachne chau kaso mitra.............once upon a ti me there was a country called nepal bhanera chin ne na chau.........
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Posted on 05-25-05 2:18
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You guys have tried to invoke me but I'd not belittle myself by arguing with you any more. You could rejoice of victory only if your comments had changed my stance, which unfortunately for you, has strengthened day by day. Nevertheless, you can celebrate if you think you have won.The problem with the monarchists are they are very complacent about people liking them, which in fact is not true(the size of pro-monarchist program demonstrates it). To answer Saroj's question, my initial thoughts were not abt. ousting monarchy. Refer to 'Thinking sensibly and impartially' . I had urged for a positive role from the King to promote and strengthen democracy.A monarchy which accepts to be the heritage of the nation just like in England. But when King pushes for dictatorship, there is no reason for us to quest for a middle ground. If dictatorship is King's venture, there is nothing sinister about ending the tradition of monarchy. King is going the dictatorial way. The latest attempt is an ammendment of the existing media laws enforcing total censorship in media. This is not abt. taping the journalists' mouth, this is about blocking Nepalese people from being informed; a move only the dictators resort to protect their sins from being exposed.The monarchy is irresponsible and your question what if the KIng flees is in itself marred with dubious irresponsibilities. First, the monarchy could have stayed on as a positive democratic institution. Secondly, if it doesn't want to stay in the domain, a proper handover/transition of power could have been their responsibility. Thirdly, if the King flees irresponsibly, there will certainly be some kind of vaccum but I am sure that will be shortlived. The King won't leave unless the public storm into Narayanhiti. By then, political parties can work out a contingency plan to fill the vacuum.International community, UN etc can help in some way until the situation is stabilized if anything unpleasant really happened.But I won't think it will be so messy. See how Georgia, Kyrgyzstan, Ukraine, Ivorycoast got through recently. You see, the world is very dynamic and no single people or a single group is indespensible for the contunuation of this dynamism. A couple of centuries ago, the whole world was ruled by Kings and Emperors. Now a dozen or so are remained.Very soon none may exist. Inherited rule is not a scientifically proven ideology. Hence, Nepal can do very well without monarchy. The world has carried on with so many upheavels and mayhem, there's no reason that Nepal can't cope without monarchy. I hope this answers your questions. Now, I would not like to discuss with you because this has not at all been fruitful in broadening my political horizon. Therefore, I'd not like to waste my precious time arguing with you now. Finally let me end this discussion by putting one statement made by one of the infamous पंच of one time, Buddhi Man Tamang recently: अहिले नयाँ परिस्थिति सिर्जना हुनासाथ स्वार्थका लागि राजसंस्थाको जयजयकार गर्नेहरू देखिन थालेका छन् यस्ता बाँदरेभक्ति देखाउनेहरूबाट राजसंस्थाको हित हुनसक्दैन, त्यसैले राजसंस्था सचेत पनि हुन सक्नुपर्छ, यस्ता कुराहरूप्रति । And for me, राजावादीहरूको अहिलेको चुरीफुरी देख्दा लाग्छ, यो कतै वर्षातको भेलमा धेरै भ्यागुता कराएजस्तो त होइन ?
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Posted on 05-25-05 6:52
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Newuser, you said "All in all let me emphasize the fact that the spectrum of your political knowledge is blurred and limited." Well, let me admit that I may have less political knowledge than some of the people debating in this thread, but I am in no way bound by it. I like to broaden my knowledge and like to engage myself in a thoughtful discussions, seeing things from different angles is one of the ways, which you have shown time and again that it is not your cup to tea. Anyway what good does it do to have an unlimited and unblurred political knowledge if you are as stubborn as an ox.
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Posted on 05-25-05 8:36
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People need to stopthis he said she said shit....Its like phalna ley yasto bhanyo usley usto bhanyo...GROW UP. Sorta reminds me of kids in kindygaaden..."mummy mummy usley malai yasto bhanyo"
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Posted on 05-25-05 9:37
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Man you seriously need to broaden your horizons. You are basing all your faith in IFs and BUTs. IF everything would work fine then you wouldn't be having this discussion. IF things would go perfectly then of course Saroj and everyone else who are discussion with you would support democracy. They are just trying to say that it is very likely that democracy in nepal is not going to take place the way you think it should. I don't think they support the King any more than you do. Why don't you get that in your brains?
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Posted on 05-25-05 11:56
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BC, bbbbbut s/he hitted me first! LOL...to play off the Newsweek thing, since I have no evidence that the blasts didn't take place, I will remain "neutral" in this case.
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saroj
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Posted on 05-25-05 1:52
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Shyamu I'm surprised you haven't figured out by now that Newuser does not have the brains to figure that out. It is really hilarious when someone start their arguments saying "You guys have tried to invoke me but I'd not belittle myself by arguing with you any more." Then goes on to argue with boring repetitious idealistic jargon. I guess you just belittled yourself by arguing with us again. But tell you what? your belittled mentality is already visible to everyone by now so no need to prove it again and again. Astu
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Posted on 05-25-05 1:58
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ताली, के के न भने भन्दा हुन यि ज्ञानेका लगोटीहरुले।
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saroj
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Posted on 05-25-05 2:09
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Ma Gyane ko chamcha bhaye, newuser prachanda ko toilet paper. Democracy ko disguise ma Maoist comrade Newuser. Go back to the Jungle comrade newuser, where you dont' have to have a brain to discuss and respect ideas.
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newuser
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Posted on 05-25-05 2:19
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हे हे झगडा नगर यार । I am engrossed in football now.
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Posted on 05-25-05 2:43
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I dont know what hell was this thread about and dont have time to go through it.. here is a bombshell what those bloddy dhoti's(indians) are doing to us http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1121985.cms India left in the lurch on MaoistsAdd to Clippings BISHESHWAR MISHRA & MOHUA CHATTERJEE TIMES NEWS NETWORK[ WEDNESDAY, MAY 25, 2005 11:07:56 PM ] Surf 'N' Earn -Sign innow NEW DELHI: Take this. Two agencies accountable to the same ministry are working at cross purposes. While a wing of the Home Ministry, the Sashastra Seema Bal (SSB) guarding the Indo-Nepal border, was busy in purging out and nabbing Maoist rebels who tried to surreptitiously enter this side, another wing of the same ministry arranges a meeting between top Nepalese Maoist leader Baburam Bhattarai and CPM general secretary Prakash Karat. "This is a case of proverbial left hand not knowing what the right hand does in the government," termed a security expert. In an exclusive front page report on Wednesday, Th
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saroj
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Posted on 06-14-05 9:53
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I hope the new visitors get a chance to read this fiction. Just some food for thoughts.
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saroj
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Posted on 09-16-05 11:14
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Tell me someone who doesn't know that the politicians are corrupt in Nepal. They are all there to make money. There is only one icon that is stopping them from looting our motherland Nepal. The very existence of the King stops them from plundering Nepal. So it is in their best interest to get rid of monarchy so that they can plunder the country and take the most advantage. Mark my word, the politicians who want to get rid of the king only wants to do so because the king stands in the way of thier selfish motives which is to squeeze as much money as they can when they are in power and then leave. Although everything surrounding the King is negative and he has taken full advantage of his royalty, he is better than the politician who have nothing to lose besides taking advantage of their time in power and then getting the hell out of there. People need to realize this sooner than later. In the name of democracy these politicians are using the general population to attain their inner motives which is to gain power then riches then get the hell out of there leave the country in ruins.
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Posted on 09-16-05 11:28
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ma ke rahicha bhanya ta radio natipe ka station haru ajha pani gane ka sath lagera kehi paune wa uni haru ka station cheu chau ka lai kehi hunchha ki bhanera bhukdai rahechhan. Kag karaudai garchha Pani sukdai garchha, wait you sarkar on aryaghat. he will be there near soon.
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