Dear sons and daughters of Nepal,

We do not really know what the situation is like in our country. We have heard more rumours and less facts; and we have made our own judgement based on those rumours. Our opinions have been divided into almost two halves. One half supporting the King's move and the other half opposing the action. Almost all of us who are fortunate enough to live in the west at this torrid time are capable to think sensibly on this issue.So lets contemplate with the love for the country and citizens in mind now.

Some of us may have been victims of atrocities committed by the Maoists. Some may have suffered because of the corrupted political leaders. And some of us may have been the victim of injustice in the Panchayat era and at present. So we are expressing our vengeance against those who have made us to suffer. And therefore we are divided. The citizens who are educated, who have seen how democray functions, who know the fruits of social justice in a developed society; we are divided. And this is not a good sign for the future. Tommorow, we have to take the burden of Nepal in our shoulders. We have to hand the nation to our next generation. We have to make sure that we can hand over a peaceful and prosperous nation to our children and die. Otherwise we are not different to the previous generation which never got the oppurtunity like us to see the democracy and prosperity of the western world. Our children will blame us if we fail to do better things for our country.So let's try to be impartial, let's forget our personal interest, let's put away our vengeance against both sides of the debate.With a cool mind let's discuss what can we do at best to resolve the current crisis from our part. I will try to give my assement in the next thread on what can we expect in the near future and what is best for the country in the coming days. Please put your thoughts, unbiased and pragmatic, without spilling your anguish and hatred to all the sides- political parties, monarchy and maoists.I hope all of you will take part in this debate very seriously.
Newuser.

hehehehe... herana savya bhaako..... dhonga garna ta maobaadi jasto aru kallai aucha... manche ni marnu ta timiharulai.. ani mareko hoina pani bhannu cha...... timi haru ta.... dudh le dhuliyeko sooooojho ho ni.. hehehehehehe.... raato ragat le latpatiyeko afno sarira herera.. ghin lagdaina timiharu lai afno ku karma ko??????
nakachara!!

Yo paagal le malai pani paagal banauna khojya hera. J J man lagchha lekh. I am not going to reply any more. But I will continue to post. More and More.

common....Newuser prachande ko chapluse garne.. maobadi hatyaara !!!

timile timro chaplushi garne baaheko kasko chai reply gareka chau... heheheheh..... thats why i dont expect reply from you..... tero tauko ma prachande ko shit matrai cha..... saala... brain wash gariyeko maobaadi veda.... words ko pani abuse garna sipaalu cha... lekhne bela ma Impartial thinkinking... mora... Partiality ko pani sima paar garisakyo... yasta kukkur lai... ghokraayera desh ko simaa baatai baahira fyakidinu parne ho......

lekha na lekh.. talai nalekh bhandina.. tero lekhne freedom ko kadar garchu... maile ta comment matrai gareko.. kati chapsule haru ko matrai comment sunera furunga hunchas.. kaile kaai... hamro pani suna........

saaaala... jo chor uskai thulo swor... jati karaunu cha kaara mora.... bhukna ta jaaneko chas....

teri aama ko katto kha

ta bao aama matrai hoina chimeko.. mero .. prachande ko baaburaamko.. girjia ko.. kaatu matrai hoina gu mut pani khaa

hoina hoina.. mero kattu ra gu mut khaane laayek ta chainas... mero gu mut khaais bhane ta mora enlighetened hunchas.. hehehehehehe

अँ अरु पनि के के भन्नुछ भन् धन भाको बुद्धि नभाको खाते।

खाते खाते खाते

खाते खाते

खाते

यो कफी पागलका कारण मैले पनि केहि अशिष्ट अभिव्यक्तिहरु लेख्?नुपरेकामा साझाका सभ्य मित्रहरुमा ?विनम्रता पूर्वक क्षमाप्रार्थी छु।

न्यू युजर

oyee.. nakkale...!!!

feri swanga parna thalyo.. tero jaata sab lai thaha cha yaar..... kati sista or asista chas ta... mora tero karkut nadekheko pani hoina kyaa......

herana.. rish le tirmirayeeko... hehehehe.. reply gardina bhathiyo... jab afno jaat charlanga words ma lekheko lekhyo.. .. khutta bhaat bhui gayaba bhayo..??? hehehehehe

tero creative thinking dekhi sakyo mora... imparatial.. ko heading raakhera.. matobaadi ko dhungro fukne..... kukkur

ragat le latpatiyeko anuhar mirror ma dekhe pachi ghin laagyo

manche ko maashu khaayera na aghaune jantu!!!

Bhrasta Netaji,

At least you are here to represent the cause of Maoists rebels and I have full sympathy for the warring faction with a very uncertain future. The sympathy is not for their violent methods but for their uncertain future. The sympathy is for the life of so many Nepali youths who have been misguided to carry arms and ammunitions for a war which they have no prospect of winning at any cost.

Practically thinking, the maoists do not have a tiny chance of winning power in Nepal. Obviously they have the power to continue the present chaos but the chaos will do no good for their cause. What advantage can Maoists gain by continuing violence, letting their cadres to die and making boastful comments of victory when the truth is just opposite? Hit and run tactics will never win a war and maoists simply don't have enough fire power to dislodge the conventional army.

The maoists leaders know this truth and they want to make a safelanding in the mainstream. Unfortunately, King Gyanendra thinks that he can wipe out the maoists. So he wants them to surrender unconditionally . But wouldn't that be a shame to surrender without having their minimum demand fulfilled. Unlike the mandales and some politicians, I do reckon that maoists are a sizeable proposition in Nepali power struggle. But they do not represent the part which they think they are representing. The maoists have over estimated their strength and this estimation will only lead to their failure. If you think that Maoists are the children of Nepalese, do not encourage them to fight.Their future is more dangerous than that of the monarchists and the politicians. Because, sooner than later the king and the politicians are sure to hug each other (because the political equation of Nepal balances when this happens - at leasts for the interests of India and USA).

Now although the maoists may find themselves in a difficult situation, it is in their best interest to offer the King a truce in return for a dialogue in which constituent assembly could be one of the agendas. No matter how many army or police they kill, finally they will have to agree on this issue and this is the biggest bargain they can possibly hunt. Frt the time being, this also appears impossible because Gyanendra is also in his own dream- dreaming about flushing the maoists within three years.

Now the Maoists have three options- 1.announcing ceasefire and offering the King a chance for peace talks. 2. convincing the political parties to struggle together for a democratic republic. 3. or continuing the current chaos and digging their own graveyard.

No. 1 obviously is the easiest choice. They may think it's bowing down to the King, but this is the best option to prevent blood shed in the country. Sharing power with the King and political parties and servig for the best interest of Nepal is the best option available for the rebels. Second option is not too easy. But once all sides but the monarchy unite together, they can dismantle monarchy from Nepal but it may take years and years. The king should be very repressive to the people to let this happen. The third option is suicidal for the maoists. They are going to gain nothing by continuing the present actions. They are going no where with the present style.

Bhrasta netaji afna maobadi karyakarta lai uchalera mrityu ko mukh ma falne kaam nagarnu yar.

Our Nepal is for all the Nepalese- democrats, monarchists or maoists, rich or poors. Not for selfish corrupt and self-fulfilling lot.

hehehehe... malai ignore gareko???????

looking for prachande chor's support????

paap karaucha saathi...

prachanda le pani kholera dekhai dincha talai... hehehehe

Newuser, Ke Kathe manche hoinan ra?

भूलसुधार:
यो कफी पागलका कारण मैले पनि केहि अशिष्ट अभिव्यक्तिहरु लेख्नुपरेकामा साझाका सबै सभ्य मित्रहरुमा विनम्रता पूर्वक क्षमाप्रार्थी छु।

न्यू युजर

hehehehe.... Maaobaadi newuser!!!

sabai dosh malai nai deu.. aile samma pani timiharule tei nai gareka chau.. hehehe
mero dui char sabda le kasto mur muriyeko rish le hehehehehehe.... malai vetyo bhane pani jan karwahi garne hola ni.. heheheh....

mero haat katidinchau ho??? ani driver harule nepal banda ma gaari chalauna nasakne jasto ma pani tero ghinlagdo kartut ko against ma mero comment lekhna paudina ni ta.. heheheheh

timiharule aile samma garekai k chau ra..... tod fod ra katne marne baahek.. hehehehehe....

timiharuko hatya ra hinsa ko srinkhala le hami pani tesari nai mur muryeka chau ... dikka bhai sakyau timi haru dekhi......

Newuser be cool... no need to corner a coffee boy.

We just have to wait and see... wait for the prediction of age old prophecies of Nepali Jyotishi's........

Newuser,
general GRE ko practice gareko jasto cha ni - lekheko lekhyai -lau essay section ma timi lai maile 4/5 dieko hai.

I think newuser is a very intelligent and intellect person in this forum. We should respect and encourage him. Don't you guys think so. Kay yar give him a chance after all Who know may be he will be new leader to guide us in our near fuuuturay like Giiiiiirriiiiiija, paa raa chande, babuuurammmm, MN, SBthapa..... did for last 15 yrs.

Let him say whatever he wants yar after all its not gonna make any difference. Shit goes in and shit comes out. No matter where they live. No one can change their thinking.

Living in AMRICA won't make you democrat and you are not ready for dwoyuqwaxi. Ask yourself and you will know. And when you ask yourself ask sincerely.

No matter who comes in this present situation patience is what we need? And supportive is what we all should be. Mr Newuser if your were ruling our country right now and if you don't have support of your own people then do you think you can make any change or develop our country. Everyone knows what is prachanda and baburam doing.

So think and thinking is what you should DO. Living AMRICA Taking Mao's China. Talk Deng Xiao Ping's China then may be AMRICA Will like you.

Caaaoooooo Ni maobadi

Mailaadai go and check posting on Playing china Card

Murkha ko mana ma arti gali tulya bijauchha
Dudh paan gari sarpa khali bish bagauchha
Saanai dekhi chhucho hunchha dusta manisko mati
ghochne ti jangali kanda pahile nai tikha kati.

Jadau sajha ka salin mitrharulai yo chiso sanjh maa ma new user ko. Ta suru garau hamro uhi rajnitik bahash angreji ma.

(My statements are intended to pure mandales only, not to pro-monarchists)

First, Dear Mailadai I am not intimidated by any defamatory statements from the sons and daughters of mandalays who are afraid that the silent Nepalese people would be conscious about their snatched liberties and freedom and unite against tyranny. They were cornered for 15 long years and when their time has finally come after a long wait, it is obvious that they do whatever they want to protect their hope of exploiting Nepal's resources.These people are the 'lagotis' of Sharad chandra Shah, Tulsi Giri, Kirtinidhi Bista and so on. Therefore they think- 'oh ho balla hamra din aaye'. They want to extend their days as long as possible. But they have to face stiff challenge from conscious and idealistic people like us. Moreover the overwhelming majority of the international community has challenged strongly against tyranny so the mandales are having a nightmare. It is very much understandable.They want to supress the voices of people like us just not to let the connection between truth and general public. The ban on media is the best example and if there was 'inka bauko taagat' they would even ban sajha.com. They just dont see any other way to protect their 'kutsit swartha'. We shouldn't be discouraged to keep the flame burning. One day sooner or later, these mandales will be defeated. United we should be to defeat these bunch of thugs who are desperately adamant to maintain the new darkness for another thirty years.

Neither I am favouring politicians nor the maoists in this thread. Any educated person without a layer of 'mandaleko swartha ko jalo' in their mind can figure out that I am representing the voice of truly democrat people. I have categorically condemned the corrupted political leaders and violent maoists atrocities in every threads I have participated. I have said that the maoists should be liberal and offer the King a favourable condition for dialogue. So that the King's real intention of solving the problems will be exposed in front of the public. I have also said that the corrupt politicians should be punished. Otherwise, the king, as a person of having real power to correct the mess of the coutry if he has the right intentions, have to try to put together the political parties, maoists and the public to create peace and stability in the country. Maile bhane ko ta etti nai ho.
But these mandales are angry with me because if all people are given equal chance to participate in the country's mechanism, their hegemony will come to an end. Moreover these mandales sons and daughters are incapable of competing with the children of general Nepali public. So they want to reserve guaranteed protection to their interests and therefore support the Kings autocracy. Just scroll up and read how stupidly the children of some mandale thugs have reacted to my logical arguements(coffee and lokman). This must give you a small clue about the mandales intentions who are partiying wildly after Feb 1.
Nepal has been the victim of the feudal rule of some rich elites for centuries. The 15 years of multi party system couldn't take a new direction and stick to the old way of rule. Those politicians cannot be forgiven. WHy don't the old politicians who are nearing their death challenge against the tyranny right from now? If they are killed by the military's guns, may be there blood is purified and their past sins will be forgiven. And a new dawn of democracy will appear in the horizon. I think if Girija and Sushil Koirala and Sahana and Bharat mohan and Mohan Bikram Singh and others should better take bullets in their body for restoring democracy.For democracy had to pay the price of their stupid acts, wouldn't it be justifiable to repay for their stupidity? WHy don't the maoists stop killing innocent people and instead march unarmed towards narayanhiti and take bullets. After all they are dying for nothing in the hands of army. Now if the Politicians and the maoists want to restore freedom for the Nepalese people, they should be united and challenge the mandales who are very small in number. If they had punished the mandales according to the recommendation of the Mallik Commission, they wouldn't have been able to raise their heads. Still once democracy is restored, the Mallik report should be opened up and the mandales should be punished severely. For Gyanendra's part, if he really wants to save the tradition of Shah dynasty, he must close his ears to the mandales and try to conjure support from every parties including the Maoists. He must now damn the Mandales and listen to the voice of true democrats like us. King should know that the biggest danger to monarchy are not democratic party but the mandales themselves. If he can't realize this truth, monarchy is set to collapse in Nepal.

For those who want informations about constituent assembly:
constituent
adjective
1. forming part of a whole.
2. having the power to create or alter a constitution a constituent assembly.
3. having the power to elect.
noun
1. a necessary part; a component.
2. a resident in a constituency.[17c: from Latin constituens, from constituere to establish.]

Brewer's Dictionary of Phrase and Fable, Millennium Edition
from Cassell

Assembly
Assembly of Notables, The. In French history an assembly of persons of distinction and political weight summoned by the Valois kings at their pleasure instead of convening the States General. It was the only concession made to consulting the will of the nation. They were called together by Richelieu in 1626-7 and not again until 1787, when Louis XVI was harassed by impending financial collapse. The last time they met was 6 November 1788.



Constituent Assembly
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The first of the National Assemblies of the French Revolution, which sat from July 1789 until 1791, so called from its main objective of drawing up a new constitution.
After the Second World War a National Constituent Assembly of 522 deputies was elected in France, according to the constitution promulgated in October 1945. In 1997 there were 577 deputies, 555 for Metropolitan France and 22 for the overseas departments and territories.

National Assembly
On 17 June 1789, the Third Estate of the French States General proclaimed itself the National Assembly and in July the Constituent Assembly.

National Assembly
Encyclop?dia Britannica Article

French Assembl?e Nationale,
Any of various historical French parliaments or houses of parliament. From June 17 to July 9, 1789, it was the name of the revolutionary assembly formed by representatives of the Third Estate; thereafter (until replaced by the Legislative Assembly on Sept. 30, 1791) its formal name was National Constituent Assembly (Assembl?e Nationale Constituante), though popularly the shorter form persisted.

The name was not used again until the National Assembly of 1871?75, which concluded the Franco-German War and drafted the constitution of 1875. During the ensuing Third Republic (1875?1940), it was the joint name for the two houses of parliament, the Senate and the Chamber of Deputies. During the Fourth Republic (1946?58), it was the new name of the lower house alone (the former Chamber of Deputies)?the name of the upper house (the former Senate) being changed to the Council of the Republic. For the Fifth Republic (beginning in 1958), the name National Assembly was retained for the lower house, and the upper house reverted to the name of Senate.

Popularly, the name National Assembly has often been used when referring to any constituent assembly (assembl?e constituante)?not only the National Constituent Assembly of the Revolution but also the Constituent Assembly of 1848 (which created the Second Republic) and the Constituent Assembly of 1945?46 (which created the Fourth Republic).

Revolution of 1848
Britannica Student Encyclopedia
Counterrevolution in France > Counterrevolution Triumphant
The June Days proved the beginning of the end for the revolutionary cause. Following the insurrection, the constituent assembly drafted a new constitution calling for the election of a president by universal suffrage. In December of that year, the population of France resoundingly elected Louis-Napoleon Bonaparte as president of the country, giving the nephew of Napoleon Bonaparte some 75 percent of the popular vote. A political unknown, Louis-Napoleon united moderates, conservatives, and the French peasantry behind the promise of order.

The first French Revolution culminated in the launching of a revolutionary war to ?liberate? the peoples of Europe from tyrannical monarchies. Under Louis-Napoleon, the Second Republic embarked on a decisively counterrevolutionary mission, wiping out the last vestiges of revolutionary rule in Europe. While the French Republic remained in effect in theory, the advances won by the revolutionaries in early 1848 were steadily overturned. Among other measures, freedom of the press was drastically curtailed and on May 31, 1850, some 3 million French citizens were deprived of the vote. On Dec. 31, 1851, Louis-Napoleon did away with the trappings of the republic altogether, staging a coup d'?tat to overthrow the constituent assembly. Some 27,000 political opponents were arrested. One year later, Louis-Napoleon declared himself Emperor Napoleon III.



Constitent assembly Russian Uchreditelnoye Sobraniye,

popularly elected body that convened in 1918 in Petrograd (St. Petersburg) to write a constitution and form a government for postrevolutionary Russia. The assembly was dissolved by the Bolshevik government.

The election of the Constituent Assembly was held on Nov. 25, 1917 (November 12, Old Style). The Socialist Revolutionary Party, though only receiving a plurality of the vote (40 percent), won a majority of the seats. The Bolsheviks received a little less than 25 percent of the vote. Other parties won only a small number of delegates.

The Bolsheviks and their allies, the Left Socialist Revolutionaries, argued that this mandate was not valid and that the Soviets (where they were in control) more accurately reflected the public will.
When the Constituent Assembly convened on Jan. 18, 1918 (January 5, Old Style), it rejected the Bolsheviks' demand that it recognize the authority of the Soviet government. The Bolshevik delegates (and the Left Socialist Revolutionaries as well) walked out. The next day, troops loyal to the Soviet government dispersed representatives of the non-Bolshevik parties, and the government officially dissolved the Assembly.

All-Russian Constituent Assembly (Vserossiiskoe Uchreditelnoe Sobranie). The highest elected body on the territory of the former Russian Empire after the February Revolution of 1917. The assembly was empowered to define the new political structure and to approve the constitution of the federated Russian state that was postulated by the Russian Provisional Government. In March 1917 a special council was created to prepare a law for elections to the assembly. By September the council had worked out its proposals, based on a universal, direct, equal, and secret vote. The Provisional Government designated 25 November 1917 as election day.

At first the Bolsheviks demanded that the assembly be convened, but after they seized power in November they were critical of the elections because the lists of party candidates had been selected in September or October. The Bolsheviks took part in the elections, however.

Ukrainian political circles expected that the assembly would legislate a democratic-republican political system and the national rights of the non-Russian peoples. In its first proclamation (22 March 1917) the Central Rada stated that the Provisional Government would soon convene a constituent assembly. The All-Ukrainian National Congress (17?21 April 1917) recognized the right of the assembly ?to establish the political structure of the Russian Republic,? but also called on the Ukrainians to lay the foundations for Ukrainian autonomy before the assembly was convened. The First Universal, issued on 23 June 1917 (see Universals of the Central Rada), reiterated that the assembly should pass a law on Ukraine's autonomy. In its Second Universal (16 July 1917) the Central Rada promised to prepare a statute on Ukraine's autonomy and to present it to the All-Russian Assembly for ratification. The Third Universal (20 November 1917) stated that the assembly would determine the new state structure. Beginning in the second half of 1917, the Ukrainian parties and the Central Rada, seeking recognition for the sovereignty of the Ukrainian people, proposed the convening of the Constituent Assembly of Ukraine in addition to the All-Russian Constituent Assembly.

Only 54 of the 79 electoral districts reported the results of the voting. In Ukraine the elections to the Russian assembly took place on 10?12 December 1917 in eight districts. The results of the voting in Podilia were not reported. The outcome was a reflection of the political attitudes of the population during the revolution. Out of 36,260,000 votes cast throughout the territory of the former Russian Empire the Russian Socialist Revolutionaries (SRs) received 45.5 percent; the Bolsheviks, 24.9 percent; the Ukrainian Party of Socialist Revolutionaries, 9.5 percent; the Constitutional Democratic (kadet) party, 5.1 percent; the Russian Social Democratic Workers' party (Mensheviks), 1.8 percent; the Ukrainian Socialists (the name used at the front by the Ukrainian Socialist Revolutionaries and Social Democrats), 1.4 percent; and the Ukrainian Social Democratic Workers' party, 0.26 percent. In Ukraine the 7,580,000 votes cast were divided in the following way: the national groups (non-Russian parties) won 61.5 percent (among them the Ukrainian SRs won 45.3 percent); the Russian SRs, 24.8 percent; the Bolsheviks, 10 percent; and the Kadets, 3.7 percent. Of the 120 deputies elected in Ukraine, 71 were Ukrainian SRs, 2 were Ukrainian Social Democrats, 4 were from the national minorities (1 Pole, 2 Jews, 1 Moslem), 30 were Russian SRs, 11 were Bolsheviks, 1 was a Kadet, and 1 was from the Union of Landowners. In six districts where the bloc of Ukrainian socialist parties (SRs, the Peasant Association, and Social Democrats) presented a single list of candidates, it won a clear majority of the votes: 77 percent in Kyiv gubernia, 71 percent in Volhynia, 60 percent in Chernihiv gubernia, 60 percent in Poltava gubernia, 52 percent in Katerynoslav gubernia, and 33 percent in Tavriia gubernia. In Kharkiv gubernia and Kherson gubernia the Ukrainian and the Russian SRs ran together; therefore the Ukrainian SRs received only 12 percent of the votes in the former and 25 percent in the latter gubernia.

Besides the eight districts in Ukraine, the Ukrainian Socialists had 11 deputies elected at the front.

Some of the elected Ukrainian delegates (50 in all) met in Kyiv on 24 December 1917 and decided not to participate in the Russian assembly until the Constituent Assembly of Ukraine was convened.

The only session of the All-Russian Constituent Assembly took place in Petrograd on 18?19 January 1918. The Bolshevik-dominated All-Russian Central Executive Committee set forth an ultimatum demanding the ratification of the decrees of the Second All-Russian Congress of Soviets on the transfer of all power to the soviets. When the assembly rejected this demand, the Bolsheviks dispersed the deputies and declared the assembly to be dissolved.

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