I was listening to live telecast of the last session of the reinstated parliament the day before yesterday. After Subash Nemwang allowed Sushil Koirala to put his comment on the interim constitution he started his lousy speech. In the middle of his speech he referred to the people from southern nepal. He called them "madhise." I know that he did not say that on purpose but just a tongue slip. Later a MP from Sadvawana Party(A) started his speech in hindi and he made a comment on Sushil Koirala's tongue slip saying he said that on purpose to lower the people from the south calling MADHISE. Then like any clever politician he did not go on to say "Pahadi" have been supressing the "Madhesi." He started saying Khas bhasi (people who speak Nepali as mother tongue, Bahun, Chhetri, etc.) have been supressing the Madhesi for centuries and that ought to change. Hmm.. good point, yes that has to change, I felt myself. The next morning I got an email from Mr. Rakesh Sharma. I do not know who this person is but he had this email full of links from www.madhesh.com, a website to discuss spearation of Madhesh from Nepal and make it a separate country. There were lots of articles, blog posts and comments on how people from south are being dominated by people from north. The suggestion I found there was simply split the country into two and spearate Madhesh from Nepal.
I read a few articles and found that none of the articles couuld actually address the soul of the problem. One of the article was written in Nepali and the writer was nagging about having to learn Nepali langauage. He was against Nepali being the Official Language. But he himslef was writing it in Nepali. What he forgot was the basic purpose of the language is to communicate. As long as two people understand what is being said does not matter what language is being used. That is the primary purpose of the language. In doing so, language helps people to stick together. As Sushil Koirala saying "Madise" bothered some, speaking in Hindi in the assembly must have bothered others. But, whether we speak Nepali, Hindi or English, as long as we stick together as Nepali I do not see a reason why there should be any problem.
As far as calling Madhise to Madhesi, its not that Madhesi are the only people who have been given names like that in Nepal. Bhote to any one with Mongolian Face, Jyapu- to Newars, Kheicha to Chetteri, Bahun to Brahmin, and the list goes on. Even in Terai, within the Madhesis, tharus are seen as lower by the so called upper castes, there is discrimination. So, why only point fingers to others? Let's look within ourselves. Lets correct ourselves first before we point finger to our brothers.
A lot of people hate "Bahuns" saying they are the most clever and are responsible for making this system of discrimination in our country. But, can we forget the contribution to bringing Nepal to this stage. Most of the leaders of our country today are from that caste, it is not because they are from that caste they became leadears but their ability and intellectual that they are able lead the masses. So, kudos to their ability not their caste. With power in hand everyone wants to make it easier for their family and friends. That is why we need democracy to check an balance and when they do too much we need to change. Like one said, they are like diapers, we need to change often.
Let's not fight with each other for weakness we all have. Lets fight the weakness withing ourselves. United we stand, divided we fall. One Nepal including Himal, Pahad and Terai!!

Let's not wear anything. that would solve this problem. all mp's in birthday suits!!!that would be quite a scene to watch :P

people are becoming too critical of the terminologies here. badar ko haatma nariwal bha jasto....call them madhise or madhesi, does not matter, if your intent is NOT dicriminatory. just because i call them madhise, does NOT make me a racist!!! if we keep delving into petty stuffs, we're not gonna move forward....

Sabko hitaishi
LooTe

Loote - Stop thinking about nudity all the time! :P

Kidding.

But you do raise a deeper point: there is just too much hypocrisy and ignorance flying around in politics. May good sense and level-headedness prevail in the end.

Hope all is well.

:)

It should be more about providing equal fundamental and human rights for everyone to prosper. But we are taking issue only how we address as Madhese or Bahun. Personally I dont mind if other case call me bahun or jyapu provided there is no other offense.

But the site Madhesh.com is really so shameful. That ill-educated bastard should think before bringing on such dividend issues. May be Indian Dalals , who knows?

I feel that these people like Jwala Singh and whaterver the other guys is. They are also hungry. Thats all.

CAN SOMEONE POINTED TO ME WHAT IS THE MAIN ISSUES HERE?
WHY CAN'T THESE TWO GROUP OF PEOPLE NOT LIVE SIDE BY SIDE PEACEFULLY.


THANK U

"All MP's in birthday suits"..funny loote...But i see a problem there....We would not refrain from commenting about one being madeshi and pahade from the color of the skin....

Thats what we are....proud dumb nepalese...

Disclaimer : "Not intended for people having brain" referring to the phrase "proud dumb nepalese"

I think it is a good idea to separate states and make it a federal nation. The division of Nepal is a must if peace has to be restored. Now that Maoists have reduced crimes, JTMM are putting fire in it. So it better be divided and representation based on population should be practiced.

I have not see the website and neither have time to read all crap, but if they are asking for representation in Madhesh, I m sure they are right I fully support it.

According to my research, Madheshis are not Indians, they are the natives there and if Nepal is not ready to accept them and shameful to accept them, separate states should be formed.

No offense. But this is the only solution.

The Guru

Nice video. I am also very proud of our Madhesh.

I have a few questions to those who are advocating for free country "Madhesh", it is rather a question for clarification. (Part of it I read elsewhere being asked, so forgive me if I sound rather stale)

1. Was there a free Madhesh in the past? The video above claims , and a lot of others claim that Madhesh is a birth place of Sita and Buddha. Great. But 'this' Madhesh is a new concept brought by Prithvi Narayan's children after Nepal Ekikaran, haina ra? The only time when Lumbini and Janakpur was the same country was when Prithvi 'united' Nepal. Before that, I think they were same country when Mukunda Sen briefly owned them, but he would later carve up his countries into three parts. And of course, Mukunda Sen was yet another Pahadiya colonialist.

The reason why Jwala singh is limited to Siraha and vicinity is precisely because a large chunk of Madhesh doesn't feel the way he does. For example, Chitwan doesn't care about him, nor does Makwanpur or Bardiya. Terai may have 40% of Nepal's population, but that includes shitload of Pahades. Maithili speakers, Bhojpuri speakers, Tharu speakers, individually won't exceed more than 10-15%. Those who think Hindi is common language are only partially true, what if Moslems claim that they would prefer Urdu in stead?

It is easy to split hair, and kill people. Let's first think about any viability of Terai state. Sane minds will soon prevail, I am sure. Let's oppose discriminatin, but at the same time, let's oppose violence, and start making a new prosperous Nepal.

yea nice of u chitawan thito. i m glad. aba kura nai yesto bhaisakyo nepal ma. siraha,saptari ta bihari majority thau ho.Biharilai madhesis bhanyo bhane real nepal ko madhise lai naramro huncha. jasto hamilai pahadey bhanda kei hunna real nepal ko nepali madhesi lai madhise bhanda kei hunna..yo bihari haru lai madhise bhanda uniharu lai garbha ko kura ho.
total khas popn(bahun,chettri,kami,damai,gaine,sanyasi etc) jodhda pani 35 percent hundo raicha. bihari ko competition Khas haru sanga huneho bhane bihari le jitihalchan ni. uniharu ko popn lai compare garda ta whole nepal ko nepali haru sanga garda matra thik huncha.
tharu/rajbangsi/batar/musar etc haru jodhda dherai chainan 1 million holan ki..magar bhanda kam chan uniharu..magar 11% ho nepal ko popn ma. yestai nai ho bhane..lagcha bhane lagos terai tara hamro darjeeling,doers,kumau,garhwal etc land haru pani diyos na ta. Hindi bolnai hundaina nepal bhaneko nepal ho..india haina..indian film hereypani nepal ho. African country kunai kunai ma pani ta hindi film hercha ..tiha pani hindi bolna diney.
real nepali madhesi ko j language cha tei bolun kei chaina. uniharu ko hak ko lagi awaz uthaune kura aucha nai bhane mai pani ho dinu parcha tharu ra aru madhesh ko nepali haru lai bhanera janthiye julus ma. tara yo bihari ko chahi aati bhayo..madheshi vs pahadi bhanera nepal ko behijat nagarnus na. bihari vs nepali bhannnu..aba nepal ma bihari le jitna nai atisakechan..bihar ta uniharu ko chadai cha..nepal pani khane bhayo.
pheri daka haru ko kati dherai party hau..tin oota ta direct bhetaisake "NSP(Nepal sadbhawana party), JTMM(janatantrik terai mukti morcha), MJF(madhesi janadhikaar forum). yeti matrai ki aru pani?
huna pani kina nahos..hakka hakki nepal ko nepali haru ko barabari ma popn bhaisakecha. aba ko 10 barsa ma ta nepali bhanda 2 guna badhi huncha..uhile indiako gora haru le chodepachi ko time ma 30 karod matra thiyo popn ahile 100 karod bhanda badhi cha..malai ta lagcha nepali ra bihari ko fight parey ma nepali haru le jitna garai parla. 15 million, 1 karod 50 lakh..jas ma dherai ta bahira janchan..hareek barsa bahira tannai janchan nepali haru ghatera kati cha hola bhanna sakdina..tara ghatdo cha..uniharu ko na kagad huncha tei bhayera bahira jana sakdaina ani nepal mai jhalmuri banara baschan..baccha janmayera baschan..uniharu ko 14 million, 1 karod 40 lakh...tyo pani kam bhanera bhaneko hola jaha samma malai lagcha. 10 lakh ko matra pharak cha ta nepal ma nepali ra bihari ko?
haina yo gorkhe haru ko desh ma kaha bata yesto huna thalyo hau.
soachda pani ragat tatcha.

kagad hunna..