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meraj
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Posted on 11-12-14 12:01
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Not sure how many of you are in my shoe, but I am dead bored with corporate IT job, loosing complete interest on it, and not sure what I want to do next? Has anyone faced same situation, what u guys did?
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aalukojhol
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Posted on 11-14-14 2:12
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Looking at this thread, I am happy that there are lot of Nepalese friends who have achieved success in this IT field. But at the same time it made me kind of sad too . There are lot of other Nepalese friends who are trying to achieve those success . One thing I don't like about us is that we are not that much bonded as our indian counterparts are. So my piece of advise to those who are getting bored : try to help other Nepalese either here or back in nepal , at least help one person to achieve his goal , if you have determination you can succeed on that and you will get a smile ;-) As for me I need 2 more years to get bored but I am helping people in a small scale whenever I can
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meraj
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Posted on 11-14-14 4:41
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May be its not right to tell one is happy or not, just by relating it to job. Yea I am bored with job, I get pissed with my boss, work, fell stressed, but it's not completely true that I am not happy. I am engineer by training and education and I am doing engineering. May be it's more accurate to say, lot of us are finding pleasure in the work we are doing. You know just like working to just feed yourself.
Also in reference to external activity suggested by someone and living like American, well did all that. External activity helps to some extent temporarily and physical activity gives you some energy. But again all these seem to be helping because it keeps one busy. But at the end of the it doesn’t create right balance what we all need. The only solution is to find right balance, and seems like feeling of worthless work is coming heavy on us.
American life I do, on and off but at the end, we are nepali and getting older. Identity crisis is coming heavy on all of us. If it continues, then asking white bitch to runoff when after twenty bourbon pac, isn’t that far .
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Posted on 11-14-14 8:59
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When you are a single student, or couple with no kids, or single working professional, your priorities in life is different. As kaji_sahab rightly said in earlier post, 'as time changes, priorities change too.' I found the following points in some article online. Lack of support system: Not every immigrant can cope with life in a foreign land without the support of family and friends. Relocation is a life-changing experience, especially when kids come into the picture. "It makes a couple vulnerable to either getting totally involved in their respective duties not wanting to bother the other partner, or them feeling very lonely and depressed,” says Mary John, consultant psychologist. The problem could get aggravated when the partner is the only support system. “We can’t expect our partner to be our partner, husband/wife, boyfriend/girlfriend, best friend, mother, father, etc. This often leads to unrealistic expectations, which inevitably lead to disappointment and often heartbreak,” says Dr Lavina. Loss of job especially if you are NOT a GC or Citizen: A job loss will tear apart a family anywhere in the world, but more so in the US where it impacts survival for immigrants as it is directly linked to employment visa. Your employer has control over your destiny to get a GC. You not only have to worry about getting laid-off due to company re-organization, downsizing, or funding cuts, but your main fear is staying in status all the time until you secure GC. Child rearing issues: In the absence of a family support system, many working couples struggle to share responsibilities when they have children. This strain often drives a wedge in career oriented parents, resulting in separation.
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sidster
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Posted on 11-14-14 9:32
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Harkay....my story is like yours but the only thing i have not been able to do is close everything here and move back to Nepal. Now i also know who you are.
I have been thinking about moving back to Nepal for about 2-3 years now for all the same reasons many have listed above but have not been able to make that move for many reasons listed by others above and more. But i am going to move back in next 2-3 years or sooner.
Out of my total of 19 years here, for a good 10-12 years of my time here in US was occupied for a race to achieve status, money, and that one NEXT thing i needed to get done. After bachelors, Masters, H1, GC, Status, Home, and BMW there is no NEXT thing left for me. The only thing that i am here for is for that $1500 - $2000 per month savings i can do with my "good boy" attitude savings. I have been asking myself if that $2000 per months savings that i do is worth all the dissatisfaction, emptiness, and the guilt i have for staying here.
I have not hit 40 yet but i want to retire or not work here anymore but i dont know how long i can keep on dragging myself here. I am willing to work for RS 80,000 per month and live in Nepal hiking the hills and being around what i should be around.
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prem101
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Posted on 11-14-14 11:28
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sidster, you read my mind. Im on h1 and running after GC. I always wonder whether its worthy to run alone and sacrificing all family and atmosphere back in nepal. In past people in nepal used to admire on living life in US, now a days they show sympathy as they are aware of life and struggle in US.
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Posted on 11-15-14 6:51
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not only Nepalese, I have Nigerian, indian, russian friends and many other nationalities they think the same. They never felt they belong here. As for me, I am mid 30 and I have everything ready for retirement back home, not a single penny from my parents. I invested back home. From the beginning, I never planned to stay in america forever. For now my one foot is in usa and another in nepal. in 2 years both feet in nepal :) I go to nepal every year.
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Posted on 11-15-14 9:17
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I get bored too...sometimes. Overall, it's ok. If it's unbearable for you then you definitely need to leave and do something else.
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sojodude
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Posted on 11-15-14 3:07
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GariKhanaDeu - Yeah I used to do all that and get happy. If you are lucky, you may keep doing that and keep your friends. I've seen some people do that. But life comes fast on you. You have to change jobs, location, etc due to other priorities. You can't expect life to remain the same forever. For all you know you need to move to a different neighborhood or city for your kids education. Work colleagues are just temporary. Friends and family, especially the friends that you make early on in life in school and college stick with u for the rest of your life. Everything else is transient. Like Meraj put it : "But again all these seem to be helping because it keeps one busy. But at the end of the it doesn’t create right balance what we all need" - Completely agree with u Meraj. I think most people go through the same thing. Go to college, get a job, buy fancy cars and spend like crazy, but at some point all that changes. Since experience changes you. Makes you a different person. One thing I keep hearing from a lot of people (and I used to think the same way) is that there aren't enough opportunities in Nepal to go back. But now I want to think in a different way. How can I create opportunity in Nepal. What can I do to employ 5-10-50 people. Can I invest in agriculture, energy, education? Can I help train people with the knowledge that I have here? I mean how can I improve the lives of fellow Nepalese? What are they missing and how can I help them find that. I think that's the question all of us should be asking. I've seen a couple of friends who have established companies and businesses in Nepal. Some have succeeded and some have failed. But I do commend all of them for trying. It's not easy in Nepal, especially with politics the way it is and bureaucracy. But it's not easy anywhere. But we can't give up hope. We need to keep trying. I encourage some of you who are considering to go back to think about the current challenges and how you can solve them. Because once we get the momentum going, many others will follow.
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Posted on 11-15-14 4:41
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Agreed with almost all of you, and much over sojodude's last comment. If anybody wants to go back to Nepal for good and if we all here are IT professionals, why not invest our skills and finance on the IT sector . You can choose whatever you want but for me I am gonna do this IT job if I planned to go back to nepal in couple of years . Look at Indians , if they can take over world's IT , why can't we ? You can do the same job you want , make almost same money, moreover you will be satisfied, help country' s economy , bring on new jobs, and create opportunities for young generations . Let the conversation flow and I request Professionals who are in this sector for long time ( 10-15 years) and also have good managerial skills to make some kind of platform so that we can do some project . I am a new-bie but I am not gonna stay here for forever, so better to start thinking from right now
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sidster
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Posted on 11-15-14 5:17
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I just want to make a clear distinction here about folks making argument on "opportunity in Nepal" vs the "escape from this lifestyle" from people participating on this thread.
I strongly believe that most posters on this thread are implying the "escape from this lifestyle" and for us nowhere else in the world other than Nepal is an easier place to escape. In that sentiment we tend to rationalize the argument of there are "opportunities in Nepal too".
People who know the difference and make a move for an "escape factor" may not regret or survive Nepal just fine but the ones who move back for an "opportunity" may get frustrated and regret the move back. If you just move back for the "opportunity" it could be disappointing as we are not accustomed to crazy Nepals way of getting things done. For most of the posters here what we want is to escape and if you remember that then you will be ok with any opportunity or no opportunity Nepal may offer you.
Not that i am saying there are no opportunity but it is important to know why one makes the move.
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Posted on 11-15-14 7:02
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My parents visited me last month and all they kept saying was why are you living here ? for what ? Nepal is far better and just move back to Nepal. They didn't like it here and now i am getting tired of my job and all everyday crap to save $1200 or so a month and that too if my card doesn't need any major maintenance. For the first 10 years i finished my bachelors, then masters, then ran after H1 then again ran after Green Card and now here i am i have everything but now i have started hating my life here. Just want to return to live in nepal, do something there an enjoy the hike up in the poon hills and pokhara and many other places. just getting sick and tired of this BS.
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Posted on 11-15-14 9:59
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Very interesting comments. Ma ni pachi Nepal jane nai sochdai chuu. Swargiya Alok Nembang ko bhanai " din dinai marera bachnu bhanda..." lagu huncha hami dherai jaso lai. Yeha mahinako $5000-$6000 bachauna din dinai marera bacheko jato anubhav huncha. Ma ni Nepal ma inverst garna thalisake retirement ko lagi. Early 30's bhaiyo, aba 10-15 basne ho ani Nepal jane ho retirement life bitauna.
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Posted on 11-15-14 10:12
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I believe 30's is the best time to move Nepal if one is really planning to go back. Later, once you get married and children starts school then you will get stuck.
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Posted on 11-16-14 12:46
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Sidster you made some good points. I've some friends who went back to Nepal to start businesses. They were successful but not unless they fought hard against the non-existent work ethics, and ever-existent bureaucracy in Nepal. Needless to say, you need to be mentally very tough to handle these situations. A lot of people can't and eventually decide to come back. But I do hope that the influx of new ideas and opportunities will somehow change that culture and people will be more responsible and be accountable for their actions. Somebody has to start it and get the momentum going.
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Posted on 11-16-14 12:57
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I am so glad to see all our guys doing very well in this country. I feel the same way like some of you over here. When I came here six years ago, I thought I was going to stay here forever. I visited Nepal last december. It made me realize I do not belong here in U.S. I so feel like to go back home and settle down around my family and relatives. But i do not think I can go back because I know I will not be able to do anything back there and I am not from rich background.
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Posted on 11-16-14 10:28
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This is a good thread and I enjoyed reading post from all with different experience level. While not from the IT background, I always wondered what would people in this field do after 10-15 years of experience in this field. Technology in this seems to be changing very quickly and new graduates with new ideas are joining every year in this field. How are those who graduated 10-15 years ago are keeping them relevant in this field with young graduates. This field seems different compared to others where experience counts a lot in other field. In this field, new technology and new ideas seems to dominate the experiences. Based on whatever I have read on news from Silicon Valley, age of most of these tech companies employees are between 20-40 and above 40 are not considered good hire as they lack new ideas. May be little off topic, but would love to hear from those who have 10-15 years of experience in this field and how they are doing.
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Posted on 11-17-14 3:03
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Malai ta j kaam garna pani laast alchi lagcha sathi ho.....vada majhne kaam, register thokne kaam sab ghati ma aayera IT chiriyo.....IT ko kaam pani ghaati vanda mathi aaisakyo.....kaam dhoti ko anuhar dekera Baanta/vomit ayera hairaan cha...,.....kaam kei garna naparne....... din vari movie ra game herna milne tara tanna paisa aune field kei cha vane vanam hae sathi ho...would really apprecaite that......
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Posted on 11-18-14 8:39
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लु तपाईहरु काममा बोर भैराख्नु भएको होला यो पद्नुस Getting rich and becoming a millionaire is a taboo topic. Saying it can be done by the age of 30 seems like a fantasy. It shouldn't be taboo and it is possible. At the age of 21, I got out of college, broke and in debt, and by the time I was 30, I was a millionaire. Here are the 10 steps that will guarantee you will become a millionaire by 30. 1. Follow the money. In today's economic environment you cannot save your way to millionaire status. The first step is to focus on increasing your income in increments and repeating that. My income was $3,000 a month and nine years later it was $20,000 a month. Start following the money and it will force you to control revenue and see opportunities. 2. Don't show off — show up! I didn't buy my first luxury watch or car until my businesses and investments were producing multiple secure flows of income. I was still driving a Toyota Camry when I had become a millionaire. Be known for your work ethic, not the trinkets that you buy. 3. Save to invest, don't save to save. The only reason to save money is to invest it. Put your saved money into secured, sacred (untouchable) accounts. Never use these accounts for anything, not even an emergency. This will force you to continue to follow step one (increase income). To this day, at least twice a year, I am broke because I always invest my surpluses into ventures I cannot access. 4. Avoid debt that doesn't pay you. Make it a rule that you never use debt that won't make you money. I borrowed money for a car only because I knew it could increase my income. Rich people use debt to leverage investments and grow cash flows. Poor people use debt to buy things that make rich people richer. 5. Treat money like a jealous lover. Millions wish for financial freedom, but only those that make it a priority have millions. To get rich and stay rich you will have to make it a priority. Money is like a jealous lover. Ignore it and it will ignore you, or worse, it will leave you for someone who makes it a priority. 6. Money doesn't sleep. Money doesn't know about clocks, schedules, or holidays, and you shouldn't either. Money loves people that have a great work ethic. When I was 26 years old, I was in retail and the store I worked at closed at 7 p.m. Most times you could find me there at 11 p.m. making an extra sale. Never try to be the smartest or luckiest person — just make sure you outwork everyone. 7. Poor makes no sense. I have been poor, and it sucks. I have had just enough and that sucks almost as bad. Eliminate any and all ideas that being poor is somehow OK. Bill Gates has said, "If you're born poor, it's not your mistake. But if you die poor, it is your mistake." 8. Get a millionaire mentor. Most of us were brought up middle class or poor and then hold ourselves to the limits and ideas of that group. I have been studying millionaires to duplicate what they did. Get your own personal millionaire mentor and study them. Most rich people are extremely generous with their knowledge and their resources. 9. Get your money to do the heavy lifting. Investing is the Holy Grail in becoming a millionaire and you should make more money off your investments than your work. If you don't have surplus money you won't make investments. The second company I started required a $50,000 investment. That company has paid me back that $50,000 every month for the last 10 years. My third investment was in real estate, where I started with $350,000, a large part of my net worth at the time. I still own that property today and it continues to provide me with income. Investing is the only reason to do the other steps, and your money must work for you and do your heavy lifting. 10. Shoot for $10 million, not $1 million. The single biggest financial mistake I've made was not thinking big enough. I encourage you to go for more than a million. There is no shortage of money on this planet, only a shortage of people thinking big enough. Apply these 10 steps and they will make you rich. Steer clear of people that suggest your financial dreams are born of greed. Avoid get-rich-quick schemes, be ethical, never give up, and once you make it, be willing to help others get there too. Read more: http://www.entrepreneur.com/article/234454#ixzz3JQmxX5AK
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Posted on 11-22-14 6:58
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Hey Brother, Do you mind if I ask you where you invested back in Nepal? I have been looking forward to do the same as well but do not have any idea about where to invest my capital. I would appreciate if you would elaborate a bit more and it might help others out to who will read the post. Thanks in advance.
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Posted on 11-22-14 7:02
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Hello brother, Would you mind If i ask you to elaborate a bit more regarding the investment? I have similar plan, I am getting close to my 30 and want to move back to Nepal. Investment as people say is a way to make money grow. I would appreciate if you would kindly tell me where you invested in Nepal, and any other suggestions is highly appreciated.
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