साही बाबा ब्रो को रगत उम्लने थ्रेड पढे पछि यो समाचार मा आखा गयो. हामी नेपाली कति सम्म गैर जिम्मेवार छौ कति सम्म नालाएक छौ भन्ने कुरो सोच्न मन लाग्यो / देस को २३५ वर्ष को इतिहास बोकेको ठाउ लाइ किन कसैले गम्बिरता पूर्ण नलिएको ?? राजतन्त्र नभए पनि त्यो हाम्रो इतिहास हो , युरोप अमेरिका मा पुराना दर्बार भावी पुस्ता का लागि भनेर संरक्षण गरेर जस्ता को तस्तै राखिन्छ , ५०० - ६०० वर्ष पुरानो दर्बार संरक्ष्ण गरेर जस्ता को तस्तै छ , हाम्रो १० वर्ष नपुग्दै यो हाल छ , अब २०- ३० वर्ष मा के हुने !
खै यार देस को एउटा मात्र चित्त बुझाउने ठाउँ नि छैन ! जता हेर्यो तेतै निरास , भ्रस्टाचार , बेहाल छ अनि कसरि देस छ भनेर फर्किनु !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cl_CNtEw1TY

Bro what part of history u didn't understand ?

Last time I checked, they brought down the Berlin Wall, tore down Saddam's statue and they are bringing down the Confederate flag. You want to worship the symbol of tyranny that pushed Nepal 100 yrs backwards in civilization ? Shame on you and people like you.

Bro : we think we are the smartest person on the Earth. We are the Jews' Jews, who values money.
bairagi: I could come up with right word for your bragging,how they pushed the civilization 100 years back ?
New Democratic leader pushed our economy 59 years back in very short period of time. prachande pocketed about 270 million. That kind of history you admire?

सद्दाम को मूर्ति ढाल्नु जरुरी थियो ?? बार्लिन पर्खाल झार्न जरुरी थियो किन की तेस्ले पूर्ब र पश्चिमजर्मनी छुट्टाएको थियो ।
राज तंत्र त ढली सक्यो त अब नेपाल मा त्यों भन्दै मा पुराना इतिहास बोकेका दरबार हरु लाइ भुत बंगला बनाउदै जाने ? तेसो भए त इजिप्ट का पिरामिड सबै बत्काउनु पर्यो , ती दासत्व का पारिणाम हुन । गोर्खा दरबार नुवाकोट दरबार सब आगो लाउनु पर्यो हैन । राज तंत्र मान भनेको हैन तर राजतंत्र भनेको नेपाल को इतिहास हो , ऐतिहासिक कुरा को संरक्षेण गर भनेको ।
Shame on you and people like you who think damaging old heritage will make you civilized.
जस्ले आफ्नो इतिहास को सम्मान गर्न जान्दैन तेस्ता ले भविष्य नी बनाउन जान्दैन । बुजिस् ।

When were u guys born ? 2040s BS ? All u Kiddos have seen is democracy and u wanna sing GunGan of the past based on hersay ? Ask ur papas, they might have more balanced/informed view on the subject.

So you simply want to destroy all past ??

सालिक तोड्दा इतिहास मेटिन्छ

http://nagariknews.com/main-story/story/52127.html

बेवारिसे भयो स्वर्गीय राजा विरेन्द्रको निवास

http://www.imagekhabar.com/samachar/detail/57282/29/.shtml

कसैले माने पनि नमाने पनि हाम्रो देश नेपाल को निर्माण मा शाह बंसिय राजा हरुको ठुलो हात छ/ पृथिबी नारायण शाह ले नेपाल को एकीकरण गरेर सबै जातजाति लाई एकै धागो मा समेट्ने काम गरे, तय्स्पछी का हाम्रो पुर्खाले हाम्रो देश नेपाल को लागि ठुलो बलिदान गरि अंग्रेज को गुलामी हुन बाट जोगाए जुन आज का हामी नेपाली ले गौरब का साथ् भन्ने गर्छौ/ के पृथिबी नारायण शाह ले देश को एकीकरण र हाम्रा पुर्खाले देश को सान जोगाएर गल्ति गरेका हुन् त, यदि हैन भने किन हामी हाम्रो गौरभ मय इतिहास प्रति चारै तिर किन यस्तो घिर्ना फैलाउदै छौ / १७०० निर्दोष नेपाली हरु को ज्यान जाने गरि गरिएको १२ बर्षे ससस्त्र द्वन्द ले देश लाई के दियो, के नेपाली जनतालाई आज यहि इस्तिथि मा पुर्याउनको लागि प्रचण्ड बाबुराम ले द्वन्द गरेका थिए? नेपाल को इतिहास मा केहि लम्पट राजा हरुले देश को विकास गरेनन, जनताको अधिकार कुण्ठित गरे भन्दैमा बदलाको भाब ले देश को इतिहाश लाई नास गर्नु राम्रो कुरा हो? राम्रो होस् या नराम्रो इतिहास इतिहास नै हो/ इतिहास को राम्रो कुरा अनुसरण गर्ने र नराम्रो बाट पाठ सिक्दै अगाडी बढ्नु पर्ने मा हामी पुरै इतिहास लाई नै निमित्यान्म पार्ने तिर अग्रसर छौ !!! वास्तब मा यो सबै माओबादी चोर हरुको कारण ले गर्दा भएको हो, यी चोर हरुलाई त तल मुन्टो माथि खुट्टा गरेर मार्नु पर्छ अनि ठिक हुन्छ,,,,,,,,,,

राजाका गाडीहरु नारायणहिटीमा बेबारिसे, बहुमूल्य सामाग्री अलपत्र - See more at: http://www.imagekhabar.com/samachar/detail/57397/29/.shtml#sthash.eJOtrGlA.dpuf

Narayanhiti symbolizes the later generation of useless royals @bhairas mentioned. So it has to go. It is a symbol of patricide and fratricide. By the way, how old was tribhuvan when mahendra was born ? Sweet 13 ? You can draw your own conclusions. Last time i checked Mahendra built the narayanhiti palace.

People's feeling get hurt when they see Nepalis celebrating "Topi" diwas. Prithvi Jayanti should be abolished because that reminds them of samantiwaad.

Perhaps we should stop speaking in Nepali, because the Khas started it and they supported the ruling class.

Point to me one historical artifact that is not tainted. Tell me about one ruler/leader who committed no sins. That doesn't mean we have to forget our history, we have to forget the very thing that binds us.

@bairaghi yes sir what about building sahid smarak on behalf of Maoist ladaku on Rolpa, i guess you think they are people who build nepal. O yeah lets not forget to celebrate Prachanda and Baburam Jayanti. And of course prachands new house is new durbar anyway. May be your parents and grandparents were under age when they gave birth too does it mean you should disrespect them??
तिमी जस्तो नेपाली हो के मैले जैले साझा मा आएर बिरोध गर्ने । आफु कुन धरातल बाट कस्तो ठाउँ बाट उठेर आएको हो भनेर बिर्सेर अमेरिकन वा मोर्डेन पल्टने । जिउ सुंग्यो भने अझै तोरी गनाउछ होला ।
अझै तेइ राजा ले बनाइएदेको बाटो मा गाडी कुडाउनु छ; तेइ राजा को पाला मा बनेको भौतिक संरचना ले देस हेर्न लायक को छ ; तेइ राजा को दरबार मा बसेर साशन गर्न छ !! अब तेइ राजा को इतिहास संरक्षयं गर्नु भन्दा हुन्न मेत्न पर्छ रे ।
आइले को नेपाल को ताल बिग्रेको तिमी हरु जस्तै को सोच ले हो । जय होस तिम्रो ।

Tehi raja le banayeko baato ma gadi kudaunu cha ??? U r talking as if desh is his niji sampati. Did he made the roads by himself ? Grow up kiddo.
And no i dont sypathize maoist either. Sabai uhi dyan ka mula hun.

facebook, are you in your right mind bro? Your blind faith and brainwashed mentality and the horde of your kind always irk me. Any possibility to see beyond what you are taught in the school? Any common sense or being human 'intelligence' that you have within or carry other than preaching the history written by victors? If you've none of these, furthering arguments is worthless. But I'm sure you are an intelligent person and here I'm writing few words. What we are seeing today is the sole reason seeded by once worshiped tyranny. If he had done one good thing then it's not unjustifiable to say he had done 99 other things very wrong. The very verse 'char jaat chattis barna ko sajha phulbari' is extremely ambiguous and racist. He promulgated caste systems. So-called upper class always reigned over so-called lower class. In the present context, world has changed and people don't want to be ruled over by same old dogma. All these current contexts about racism, equal rights, disparity, tensions are because of how he laid out his principle once. If he were to be alive today, he would have been equally punishable for his war crimes that's mentioned nowhere in the history books but those who suffered knew it and still reverberate through generations. I will not run after some glorified war criminal just because text books say so. We are alive, we see it everyday, there is a divide and there is a caste system and we don't like it. I don't support destruction of historic monuments but that being said, it's just not symbolic protest anymore.

I've been saying this all time. Nepal as a country would cease to exist one day, northern plane will be occupied by chinese whereas southern will be by indians. Many of you may not agree with what am saying but it's not far from reality. I hope I am wrong.

@bairagi you remind me joke which says who build Taj Mahal ? King or workers?

@bittertruth i wish i was intelligent like you. But for me at that time he (Any King) did what he supposed to do. Racism, cast system were all over this South asia, why you blame nepalese king only ?
I am not talking about give throne to king again. I am just saying lets preserve history. How hard is it to understand.
Dont forget US government used to issue Nigger hunting license back in days so you want to disobey them too ? Arent black people bought by them as Slaves? Every country has black history man. Read history again.
Look at China now, didn't Mao killed million of people ? Dont they respect mao now ?

No, new kids don't respect mao in china anymore. Mao's statue recently decommissioned. Hitler isn't worshiped anymore, good germans don't follow him, he's a bigtime psycho dictator known to world anyway. Even in US, Nig-g-e-r slave concept is already weeded out, president obama. Why the fck we hold onto the same shit in Nepal?
And yes, you are right histories are kept best in books and that my friend can't be erased no matter what if you are really concerned about preserving history, it'll be there forever as dark history. So, Prithi united Nepal, that can't be removed from the pages of history book. Be assured.
Mark my word, 50 years later, in our timeline, Prachandey will be demonized as corrupt mass murderer in our history. Baburam is aware of this fact, and he made a move. Silly us think he is just an another opportunist, but that guy is more intelligent than he seems. I've seen his interview months before him talking about history before he resigned from his mother party. Regardless, things keep changing. We should not be worried about these little things. Imagine, should there be big asteroid impact, all our mankind history will be wiped out, we'll be flattened. Think of that as well okay, so we'll be less intense.

And then there's always two extreme.
One has to hail the King as the second coming and the other has to absolutely vilify it so much that it rejects every single entity attached to it, destroying any history.

I asked a question, point to me one single ruler who has gone untainted. That doesn't mean I will start praising my kings and chant, "raja aau desh bachau."

There is a third kind amongst us, who don't believe in Raj-sanstha, who doesn't blindly follow everything taught in elementary schools and get utterly patriotic, but also believes that certain things from our history has to be preserved because our identity is tied to them.

The constitution of US was written around the time Nepal was getting unified. Slavery was rampant at that time and blacks and women couldn't vote. That doesn't mean we should reject the constitution because it was built in tainted foundation. That doesn't mean we should take down Rushmore or US should abolish President's day etc.

All histories are tainted, it is upto us to acknowledge it, give the respect due and vow not to repeat the mistakes - not outrightly reject it or destroy it. Our present, and future, stands in the foundation of our history. You wouldn't be a Nepali, if it wasn't for our forefathers - including not just the Kings, but also the Kajis, chautaras, sipahis, kisaan, shudras and so on.

I agree with people who support the conservation of our civilization. I do not support king. They were all tyrant. But this does not mean some one can go and damage any national heritages.
I do not like today's PM. He keeps bull shitting. So, do I go to his home and say you are removed from the history. I cannot say he is not the PM of Nepal. Or I cannot remove him from the history saying that Oli was never the PM of Nepal.
What we need to think is our past does not make our future but it shapes our future. The values and culture shapes us to the future. We need to be proud nation with the glorious history. We need to understand our history. Read it and try not to repeat the same mistake.
The reality is Nepal was once ruled by King. We were proud nation. We were independent. And the reason we are a nation is because of our history which is made up of king. We need to respect.
Last thing: If yo cannot respect your history, you basically cannot respect your elders.