We all support democracy. Who in their rightful mind does not support democracy? But, the current wave of democratic movements might be an unfortunate case of displaced loyalty.

How?

To begin with, when we Nepalese join hands in this fight for democracy, do we know what we're getting into or if this democracy is going to be the 'real' meaning of democracy that we are craving for?

Basically what we are doing right now with all the demonstrations and strikes is forcing the current royal government to bow down and instill the politicians into power.

What we are fighting for right now is not democracy. We are only fighting to put certain politicians into power of the government.

Democracy begins with the government. It's the governments perogative to impart democracy. It is these politicians that we are fighting for who are supposed to give us democracy.

I would not stand back one instance if our fight was for democracy, and if the immediate result of our fight was democracy. But in reality it is not. The immediate result of our fight - is getting a select group of politicians in power. That's all.

What they do after they get into power is something that we have to think about. Are they really going to work towards making Nepal a democratic country? Do you actually believe that these politicians are going to make Nepal a democracy?

I think a lot of people here need to ask that question. You need to be aware that these politicians are riding on the wave of your support for democracy. But when the time comes, ie. when they are in power, would they give a damn about the people who brought them to power, or will they abscond into oblivion after gobbling up all the money they can?

Some hard core politicians inclined friends among us will start their name calling propaganda and brand me as a royalist. But the fact of the matter is they do not have a open mind to see reality as it is and they are happy to place their whole trust on these corrupt politicians to impart democracy someday. Talk about blind faith.

why do you guys not give democracy a chance. How can you compare 700 years of monarchial rule over 15 years of infant democracy???

When democracy was granted in 1995, the leaders were strong to lead, but not prepared to build, haste for reform, but not equipped for progressive change.

Granted the choices are not the best, but what would you choose, because in times like these staying neutral are becoming more and more difficult.

We now have a chance to bring an evolved democracy with the voice of the progressive generation, as OPPOSED to one of the richest monarchs of the second poorest nation to continue their rampage (who by the way is parading around the regions of Nepal like a trussed up thanksgiving turkey trying to win the peoples affection, and oh how so conveniently at a time like this, i say please do not desecrate that military camoflouge any further, what's more the hat he's wearing has nothing to do with the RNA but instead the Gurkha Rifles which is just flat ironic and ridiculous. But i do like his military regulation shades, nothing says "i love my people" than staring into black gucci designers.)

I will take the former option anyday.

Give democracy a chance, it is young, but moving forward fast.

"History repeats itself, first as tragedy, second as farce."
-Karl Marx

Lal Salaam...just kidding (no really i am)

-jb

Nepalese do not like democracy. Nepalese like chairman Mahila Sahu, chairman Prachande Pandit. Nepalese do not like their fathers, brothers, and brother-in-laws. Nepalese like only masters. Sometimes it makes you ashamed to call yourself a Nepalese. Thuikka yo zindagi pani ke zindagi.

it's really a shame n' KG, makune n' girijas are disgrace to nepalese society. Now I also feel shame to read sarojjee coz' he's try' 2 justify the telephone disruption; labeling of any murders inside Nepal as suicide, crack down on media n' political activities by trying to show only the corrupted leaders. Now, I'm fed up of arguing with people like u (sarojjee).

Read this: "Earlier, Minister Thapa had said the government had credible information of the Maoists “infiltrating” into the mass meeting being organized by the opposition alliance. Maoist chairman, Prachanda, however, made it clear in a statement that his party had no plans to “infiltrate” into the seven parties’ rally or meeting slated on Friday.

Minister Thapa, however, did not say anything if and how peace activist, Krishna Pahadi, ideologue Nilamber Acharya, civil society leader Devendra Raj Panday or other political leaders could incite violence in Kathmandu."

Source: http://www.nepalnews.com/archive/2006/jan/jan19/news24.php

Can you tell sarojjee that the activists like Mr. D.R. Panday is also corrupted? Did you watch his interview by Vijay kumar Panday at kantipur.com? I'm glad that the people like also exist there. N' you're trying to justify KG's action? You're gonna regret Sarojee. However, I do agree that corrupted leaders may be in power but atleast we can have the hope that they'll be replaced some day by good people. But if you try to support KG, our future remains dark forever without a single ray of hope.

Please think carefully.

I think it's very stupid to root for the politicians who have joined hands with the Maoists who are terrorists.

Although I am not a fan of the king, I don't want to support these opportunistic leaders who support the Maoist with the hope of getting a taste of power.

Who knows if the Maoists are gonna chop up all the leaders and stay in power once they are able to get rid of the king.

I agree with Gwajyo when he/she states that with democracy and corrupt leaders at lead, we could at least hope for them to be replaced unlike with Monarch, but only if Maoists had been out of the equation. When we get into the “prajatantra”, “ganatantra” or “rajtantra” talks, we always somehow forget about the third and major force in political turmoil which is Maoists. We are caught up between figuring out who is better, the King or the democratically elected leaders. Let’s not forget that Maoists are still in the equation.
We waited for 15 years to see if the corrupt leaders who were democratically elected would be replaced by good ones. It never happened. We could have waited for longer, but the threat and terror of Maoists grew stronger and stronger. The inept leaders nearly plunged the country to give it to the Maoists forever to turn it in to a communist state run by terrorists. The king then stepped in. Now I am not sure, if Maoists were tactfully created by the king to come back to power but we could leave that doubt aside as a mere speculation. Hence, the power hungry, money thirsty, corrupt, illiterate, undiplomatic, visionless leaders gave birth to Maoists during their rule of 15 years. Now tell me, had these leaders worked for the people, and for the progress of the country, would we have seen the uprising of Maoists or the takeover of the King? I doubt.

Quoting:-

Although I am not a fan of the king, I don't want to support these opportunistic leaders who support the Maoist with the hope of getting a taste of power.

Who knows if the Maoists are gonna chop up all the leaders and stay in power once they are able to get rid of the king.

Welll its not abt the support... its was all about solving the problem.... getting them on the table... talking to them... trying to solve things out without violence..... well and please dont ask me why they couldn't do it when they were in power.... well they might have tried... i dont know... this isnt the time to think abt the past and get mad at them... this is the time to think about the future.... and MOVE our LIVES on...

Yes this is a time to move on. These leaders must have been busted a way before for the things that they have put us through. Not only that I do not even mind if something happens to Makune or Girija. All the corrupt will start running for their life.

Then true leaders will rise to pose a threat to monarchy and maoists. There aint gonna be rats like girija to play us all.

Till then have fun burning in Hell !!!

highfly wrote:
"All the corrupt will start running for their life."

I would like to offer a correction:
All the corrupt with the control over the army will chase all opponents and label them "corrupt" (whether or not that is true). All "corrupt" without control over army will start running for their life. All corrupt with control over the army will be labeled divine descendants.

Saroj, you are trying to touch your left ear by right hand, but from rear side. Fight for democracy is not for establishing Girija or Madhav in power but for srtengthening people's right and leading country towards more prosperity, peace and development. In democracy, important are the people, not the leaders. If we can enthrone the leaders in power, we can also dethrone them. Nobody gets concession in democracy. How long have we been exercising democracy in Nepal to judge democracy VS politicians?

People are the source of power and sovereignity of the country, not a particular leader or a person.Just for the reason that we are dissatisfied with a particular ABC or XYZ leaders, we should not be pessimist about the whole democratic system.

At this moment, not supporting democratic movement showing the reason of bad leaders is to indirectly support the autocratic regime and I believe, Saroj, knowingly or unknowingly, you are supporting the royal regime who shuts off mobile and phones and imposes curfew in the country to protect his rule. The country is in chaos and Kathmandu itself is not safe, but he is in the tour to be "heard and seen" by people. This is the time for him to be in capital, talk to the rebels and dissidents and find a sustainable solution of the problem. How long can he shutt off communication? How long can he rule in the country with the help of "curfew"?

All those who opposed bandhas called by the parties, here is a question for you:

What do you call a curfew from 9p.m. to 4 a.m. and again from 8a.m. to 6p.m. and again from 9p.m. to 4a.m...

hehehe

Ok let me correct myself. The guless, visionless, corrupt, inept polticians in the so called democratic period will strart to run once king G starts running after them. Then will rise the leaders who are trye to people who can take on maoists and royal regime.

People will not have second thoughts about supporting them cause they will rise up from their massess buildng up the trust.

No one will be spared. Its time right now for the so called leaders in democratic period. Then it will be time for royalists and maos.

All I gotta say is Fcuk them all.

I aint got any mercy for these parasites

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Hi Saroj,

Are you living in country which is ruled by a king or a president?
Find the difference?
Democracy is the only solution. It might take some years to get a stable government.
But finally we can have a democracy like most of us dream.
Any country needs certain time to stabilise the system.

Without Monarchy Nepal will be thousand times better.
First of all we will save some Crores of tax money what is flowing to Gyane´s pocket.
Narayanhity Durbar will be a Birendra Memorail Museum which will be a main tourist attraction point. 10 $ entry fee times 1000 tourist a day will raise 10000$ a day which is enough to raise 1000 poor chilrdren.

Army budget can be cut by half. We will save multi million dollar.
Army wants 190 million just to carry the ballot boxes for municipal election.

I am sure you got the point what I mean.
Without gyane, Nepal will be 1000 times better. No Tulsi Giri, No Sarad Chandra, No Kirti Nidhi Bistas,and other chamchas and no durbaria chakadis. No DADA Paras shooting around discos.
It will be a quite place.
Democracy will be better practiced only through the practice not with the ashirbad.
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For a country to have good leader, it should first have good citizens.
Aba Janta haru nai ghanta jasta chan bheny, neta haru kay gatila huncha ta.

आज फेरि अर्को युद्ध को बिगुल बजेको छ, देसलाइ जनता चाहिएको छ रैति होइन, जनता लाइ जनता को सरकार चाहिएको छ , राक्षस र हत्यारा हरु को होइन। हरेक नेपालि का कान मा रेडियो मा बज्ने धुन हरु ले बसन्तपुर को डबलि को तर्फ फर्केर हेर्न नम्र अनुरोध मात्र गरिरहेको छैन २४ करोड नेपालि लाइ कि आज पनि हामि यि हत्यारा, शाहि राक्षस का दासता बाट मुक्तिका लागि लडिरहेका छौ भन्ने आम सन्देस दिन खोजिरहेको छ माघ ७ , २००६२ ।

२००७ साल, वा २०४६ मा सयौ नेपालि दाजु, दिदि, भाइ, बहिनि हरु ले मुक्ति का लागि रगत खोलो बगाए पनि अझै नेपालि जनता आज पनि रैति छन जनता होइन, किनकि हामि सधै एउटै दरबार बाट ठगियौ सधै हामि उनिहरु को उपभोग्य बस्तु बन्यौ तर कहिले जनता को पहिचान पाउन सकेनौ।

(प्लिज मिलाएर पढनु होला, र कमेन्ट को लागि स्बागत छ तर साझामै कमेन्ट वा गालि इमेल मा होइन।

तपाइ हामिले सोच्ने राज दरबार राज दरबार रहेन, यो त एउटा मान्छे मार्ने बुचर हाउस बन्यो।२१ शदाब्दि मा पनि दरबार ले खुलम्खुल्ला हाम्रा चेलि बेटि को इज्जत लुटिरहेका छन , दाजु , भाइ हरु बिना कारण मारिएकाछन तर त्यसको फैसला कहि बाट हुदैन न त अदालत मा न त संसदमा किनकि यि सबै यहि शाहि हत्यारा हरु को कठपुतलि बनेकोछ ।

त्यसैले आज हामि उठनु पर्छ एउटा नयाँ नेपाल को लागि, यो साहि राक्षस लाइ सदा सदा को लागि अन्तय गर्न को लागि , अनि भाबि आउने पुस्ता लाइ पनि हाम्रा पुर्खा हरु ले हामि लाइ छोडे जस्तै फेरि आफ्नो पहिचान को लागि अर्को युद्ध गर्न नपरोस भन्नका लागि।अब यो जित एउटा नेपालि को मात्र हुने छैन २४ करोड नेपालि को हुनु पर्छ, यो जित हिमाल मा बस्ने हिमालि को मात्र का लागि होइन तराइ मा बस्ने मधेसि को पनि हुनु पर्छ, काठमान्डु मा बसेर देस चलाउने का लागि मात्र होइन मेचि महकालि सम्म नङग्रा खियाएर देस सिचाउने को पनि हुनु पर्छ, महल ठडाउने माहाजन को मात्र होइन सडक र छप्रा मा जिन्दगि गुजारने सुकुमबासि को पनि हुनु पर्छ । अब त्यसका लागि हरेक ठाउ बाट हमि उठनु पर्छ। अब हामि उठनु पर्छ, ।

अन्त मा सञ्चार माध्यम , सडक बन्द गरेर र कर्फु लगाएर मात्र देस चलाउनु सोच्नु आफैमा हास्यासपद छ भने अर्को तिर जनकपुरको भेला मा पार्टि हरुको सफलता बाट यो साहि राक्षस कति आत्तिएको छ भन्ने पानि यो नागरिक समाज, मानब अधिकार बादि र राजनैतिक कार्यकर्ता हरु लाइ मध्यरात मा गएर अमेरिका ले आतङ्ककारि को नाम मा गर्ने धरपकड गर्ने जस्तो गरेको ब्यबहार बाट पनि यो कुरा पुष्टि हुन्छ ।मर्ने बेला मा कमिला को पनि पखेटा आउछ , त्यस्तै आज यो साहि राक्षस हरु को मर्ने बेला आएको छ, जनता हरु को नरसंभार गर्न खोज्ने यो हत्यारा हरु को आफ्नो संभार हुने दिन आएको छ ।

(प्लिज मिलाएर पढनु होला, गल्ति मा माफ। कमेन्ट को लागि स्वागत छ तर अनुरोध छ इमेल मा कमेन्ट वा गालि हरु गरेर तपाइ को अमुल्य समय नस्ट नगर्नुहोला।
साझाबसै मा )

Too many long coments here!
Of course we need Democracy in Nepal. But what kind of democracy are we talking about? Since 2046 everyday we saw Nepal Bandha, Julush and politician are blaming each other. Political leaders who can bearly spend 50 Rs no have 5 corore ko bangala. Where those money come from? If this sort of thing is possible on democracy why not we support king who commitment is to bring true democracy in this country! He might made some mistakes but he seems far better than our so called Janata ko Neta!

nice thoughts saroj.



I support you fully.

so, if you have a sore throat, cut your throat off?

ma ta nepali
with respect to
"If this sort of thing is possible on democracy why not we support king who commitment is to bring true democracy in this country!"

YEAH RIGHT!

Most of the 95% Nepalese political parties leaders and members are corrupt, uneducated, stupid, selfish, visionless and criminals.

What do you expact from them?

If you look good and positive future, these 7 crooks political parties have to eliminate.

These people must be dead for good.